Andrii-zvorygin Spiritual Meeting Transcript — August 8, 2026

00:00:01 speaker_unknown: Greetings in the love and light of the One Infinite Creator.

00:00:04 SPEAKER_002: I am Andrei, joined here today with Ed, Bill, Fred, and Nanette, and we will be reading this July twenty-sixth channeling of the Confederation, and it is going to the first question.

00:00:21 SPEAKER_002: Anyways, [it] is asking if it's going to be the end of the age of channelers.

00:00:28 SPEAKER_002: All right.

00:00:29 SPEAKER_002: Um, I guess Bill, just read Laitos.

00:00:35 SPEAKER_002: Okay, greetings, our friends.

00:00:38 SPEAKER_002: We are those of Laitos, and happy to be among the circle again.

00:00:46 SPEAKER_002: Though we are present, we are always present in some form as you do these workings.

00:00:51 SPEAKER_002: We simply wish to pass our vibration among you and offer a loving reminder that you are all vessels capable of expressing messages of love and light, transmitting this vibration;

00:01:04 SPEAKER_003: and it is your unique voice that is called for by your other selves in this world.

00:01:09 SPEAKER_003: So we offer comfort: not fear that your own voice will be rejected, as this goes for those beyond even this circle.

00:01:18 SPEAKER_003: For you are all, as you are aware, but we will affirm channels of the One Infinite Creator,

00:01:25 SPEAKER_003: whose creation each and every day with every breath that you take and action that you make in the world—you are being that living channel.

00:01:34 SPEAKER_003: And so, channeling is effortless to you.

00:01:38 SPEAKER_003: It can be easy; it can be fun; and it can be unique to you.

00:01:44 SPEAKER_003: Understand that there are hearts and minds that will receive their breakthrough only by hearing the message through your vessel, even if the words are said in another vessel—and they are the same words.

00:01:57 SPEAKER_003: Understand that for many, it will only be when your voice delivers it that it will hit the mark, so to speak.

00:02:06 SPEAKER_003: And so we offer this encouragement: continue on subtly in your workings to be vessels of this nature; or hold more fully in your awareness that you are an instrument of the One,

00:02:21 SPEAKER_003: even when you do not speak.

00:02:24 SPEAKER_003: And we offer the understanding that there will come a time where each of you in this world regularly channel in this manner—your own higher guidance systems—and within that are myriad entities like ourselves of higher

00:02:40 SPEAKER_003: densities and also realms you have yet to explore,

00:02:45 SPEAKER_003: and many consciousness types.

00:02:48 SPEAKER_003: So you'll all have this ability and use it regularly to vocally transmit messages to each other from these inner planes and outer planes as easy as talking about the weather.

00:03:03 SPEAKER_003: There will come a time very soon where you will no longer be reading transcripts and listening to that other self or that other self channeling being A or collective C. You each will be those

00:03:17 SPEAKER_003: same individuals that you watch on your screens;

00:03:24 SPEAKER_003: All of you will be them.

00:03:26 SPEAKER_003: And so this situation, this scenario—beings channeling only through certain vessels—will come to an end.

00:03:34 SPEAKER_003: This age of the channeler and the audience will fall away, and a new era where all are in constant communication with higher realms will take its place.

00:03:46 SPEAKER_003: That sounds like fourth-density stuff to me.

00:03:48 SPEAKER_003: Up to us?

00:03:49 SPEAKER_003: This is all we wish to share with you, beloveds.

00:03:52 SPEAKER_003: At this time, is there a query on the heart of the circle within this frame?

00:03:57 SPEAKER_003: A topic that you wish to have us offer our thoughts on?

00:04:03 SPEAKER_002: Hi Laitos.

00:04:04 SPEAKER_002: Thanks for sharing that message.

00:04:05 SPEAKER_002: I had a question on the back of that; and that is: Is there a timeline?

00:04:10 SPEAKER_002: Is this something that will happen in the near future, or is it sort of over decades?

00:04:14 SPEAKER_002: Is there a timeline where this falling away of this type of channeling will happen?

00:04:19 SPEAKER_003: I am Laitos, and we greet you, our brother in love.

00:04:22 SPEAKER_003: We do not speak in exact terms as far as the timeline, for all is shifting and moving according to the fluctuations of your collective consciousness.

00:04:35 SPEAKER_003: We pursue various possibilities—probability or just is—and we see this era is fast approaching.

00:04:43 SPEAKER_003: However, we are not bound by the concept of linearity any longer; so it would be a disservice to tell you a timeline from our perspective when we are not fully integrated with your linear frameworks.

00:04:59 SPEAKER_003: Does this satisfy the query?

00:05:02 SPEAKER_003: Yes, it does.

00:05:02 SPEAKER_002: Thank you.

00:05:03 SPEAKER_002: Does this have anything to do with the seeming age of disclosure that we are now in—or did we guys want to kind of review what's been said so far, or did we want to continue?

00:05:14 SPEAKER_002: Now let's continue till it gets deeper into this.

00:05:17 SPEAKER_002: Okay, sure.

00:05:19 SPEAKER_002: Does this have anything to do with this seeming age of disclosure that we're in now—in terms of disclosure on Earth that seems to be coming,

00:05:26 SPEAKER_002: where the populace at large are going to be made aware of extraterrestrial and non-human entities?

00:05:33 SPEAKER_003: We are those Atlantios, and would say this is one way that this age we speak of begins to manifest itself.

00:05:41 SPEAKER_003: This is one way for your general populace of other selves will be presented for the first time in mass with a catalyst, with which to begin to seek within;

00:05:53 SPEAKER_003: and given the state of your world and the blending of fourth-density energies,

00:05:58 SPEAKER_003: to hear the voices of higher guidance systems and aligned beings within one's own reality—to be able to do this—will be easier than it has ever been.

00:06:09 SPEAKER_003: And so we do see resonance with this era approaching and the age of disclosure as you call it.

00:06:17 SPEAKER_003: Does this satisfy the query?

00:06:19 SPEAKER_002: Yes, thank you.

00:06:20 SPEAKER_002: That is all I have in response to your message.

00:06:22 SPEAKER_002: Thank you.

00:06:25 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

00:06:25 SPEAKER_002: I guess that was all of Laitos.

00:06:29 SPEAKER_002: Should we do a summary now?

00:06:32 SPEAKER_002: Do it.

00:06:32 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, do what you need to.

00:06:35 SPEAKER_002: Okay, sure.

00:06:36 SPEAKER_002: I don't know if there will be much here; we'll see.

00:06:39 SPEAKER_002: Personally, I thought that was really cool—like, yeah, Q'uo said before that like... well, we all just channel the Creator.

00:06:52 SPEAKER_002: You know that essentially consciousness is channeling?

00:06:58 SPEAKER_004: So I think—and also another thing I've noticed: so many more people are talking about kind of intuition and opening themselves up to "the little voice inside," you know,

00:07:08 SPEAKER_004: side-by-side with the highest self as a standard thing.

00:07:11 SPEAKER_004: Yeah, I'm seeing so much more of that just in standard people now.

00:07:20 SPEAKER_004: So yeah, I think that's like a beautiful little message from Laitos personally.

00:07:27 SPEAKER_004: Good, good.

00:07:32 SPEAKER_004: It was trying to make an image...

00:07:37 SPEAKER_004: Oh dear!

00:07:41 SPEAKER_002: Do and playing your Q'uo structure: "You are already a channeler."

00:07:47 SPEAKER_002: Oh no, no, no, no!

00:07:54 SPEAKER_002: Not like that.

00:08:26 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

00:08:26 SPEAKER_002: There we go.

00:08:29 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

00:08:31 SPEAKER_002: Something from our universe?

00:08:33 SPEAKER_002: Or I don't know—we can decide which one is better here.

00:08:35 SPEAKER_002: Okay, so seed concept: You're all vessels capable of expressing messages of love and light, transmitting this vibration.

00:08:44 SPEAKER_002: The deeper teaching is that communication with the Creator begins before words.

00:08:48 SPEAKER_002: Every action, attitude, relationship, and expression already transmits something.

00:08:53 SPEAKER_002: With every breath you take or action you make in the world—you are bringing forth that living channel.

00:08:59 SPEAKER_002: The question therefore shifts from "Can I channel?"

00:09:02 SPEAKER_002: to "What am I already channeling?"

00:09:03 SPEAKER_002: I guess that makes sense.

00:09:08 SPEAKER_003: Well, when he puts it like that—that's almost close to manifesting.

00:09:15 SPEAKER_003: Instead of asking what I'm channeling, it's like: What am I manifesting?

00:09:19 SPEAKER_003: Hmm.

00:09:21 SPEAKER_002: This here says cardinal training session.

00:09:24 SPEAKER_002: Do not try to become a channeler; become increasingly conscious of the channel you already are.

00:09:29 SPEAKER_002: This reframes spirit and spiritual practice.

00:09:32 SPEAKER_002: Channeling becomes less about acquiring an extraordinary faculty and more about refining attention, alignment, discernment, and love.

00:09:39 SPEAKER_002: Laitos even describes it as something natural: "Channeling is effortless to you—it can be easy, fun, and unique."

00:09:47 SPEAKER_002: The uniqueness matters.

00:09:48 SPEAKER_002: A channeler is not valuable because they perfectly reproduce somebody else's voice; the vessel itself is part of the message.

00:09:54 SPEAKER_002: Here, your voice has a function.

00:09:59 SPEAKER_002: One of the most practical teachings in the passage concerns individuality: There are hearts and minds that will receive their breakthrough only by hearing the message through your vessels.

00:10:10 SPEAKER_002: Two people can... okay, yeah—they were saying that.

00:10:14 SPEAKER_002: Okay; the words are said in another vessel but they're authentic to you too.

00:10:18 SPEAKER_002: Authenticity itself is a service: Why should I say this when someone else already has?

00:10:23 SPEAKER_002: Your particular configuration may be precisely what allows another person to receive it.

00:10:31 SPEAKER_002: Here—you are an instrument of the One even when you do not speak.

00:10:36 SPEAKER_002: So channeling includes patience (by listening), compassion (remaining present with suffering), joy (through play), peace (through your manner of responding), and courage (acting according to what you know in your heart).

00:10:50 SPEAKER_002: Words are one transmission medium among many.

00:10:55 SPEAKER_002: Seen this way, the quality of one's ordinary life becomes inseparable from spiritual communication.

00:11:03 SPEAKER_002: So the most radical prediction in the passage is that today's distinction between channeler and audience is temporary.

00:11:09 SPEAKER_002: There will come a time when each of you in the world regularly channels in this manner.

00:11:15 SPEAKER_002: Disclosure as inward catalyst—a catalyst with which to begin...

00:11:19 SPEAKER_002: Let me just respond: yeah, it reminds me that the Red Cord group says something very similar on the Bro Tech channels—they said essentially human beings are getting to the point where thoughts are things;

00:11:42 SPEAKER_005: when you interact with a thought, you're calling in that thought rather than having it happen.

00:11:52 SPEAKER_005: They also say one of the main things humans have got to do is start realizing which thoughts are our own and which ones are projected into us from outside.

00:12:04 SPEAKER_005: As soon as we make that distinction—realizing some aren't truly ours—we'll be able to separate them, understand what they mean, and know who's channeling through whom.

00:12:32 SPEAKER_005: Do I mean: What are the thoughts?

00:12:39 SPEAKER_005: What is the interaction between other things?

00:12:47 SPEAKER_005: You know what I mean?

00:12:54 SPEAKER_003: Well, what you're saying to me is this: If we can separate our real authentic thoughts from those just fed to us by others,

00:13:09 SPEAKER_003: then we can know our authentic desires—and if we understand and know our authentic desires, that helps the Creator more than anything else experience itself in the most authentic way possible.

00:13:30 SPEAKER_005: Hundred percent!

00:13:31 SPEAKER_005: Like I was reading another book—yes, Andrei's not here right now—but called War in the Heavens, right?

00:13:37 SPEAKER_005: And it was this guy who talked about how he'd been psychic since he was a little kid; he could sense communication just blanketed over people.

00:13:53 SPEAKER_005: For months before Kennedy got assassinated, when he was a kid, he heard "Kill Kennedy!"

00:14:00 SPEAKER_005: bouncing around like wind or radio waves in the air.

00:14:08 SPEAKER_005: After he got shot (or rather—after what happened), he went deep into conspiracy theories because it felt like he'd been hearing programming broadcasts trying to brainwash people into killing Kennedy.

00:14:30 SPEAKER_005: And that puts the whole idea of "what thoughts are ours" into a new perspective, doesn't it?

00:14:39 SPEAKER_003: Well in that case—if you understand what really happened—you had many groups and different people who literally wanted Kennedy killed.

00:15:02 SPEAKER_003: It wasn't just one group; there was a bunch: Israel, the CIA, bankers...

00:15:06 SPEAKER_003: So no—your point makes sense because when he described it, it wasn't about brainwashing America specifically into wanting to kill Kennedy so whoever could get away with it would win.

00:15:15 SPEAKER_005: There were many entities who actually wanted him gone for their own reasons.

00:15:17 SPEAKER_005: But did this bunch of people want to kill him because they'd been programmed?

00:15:18 SPEAKER_005: Or did they go through with killing him because the secret university or lodge had brainwashed America into thinking that was what needed to happen?

00:15:32 SPEAKER_003: Well, it wasn't just America; we also had Israel, the CIA, bankers...

00:15:44 SPEAKER_003: So your point makes sense: there were literally many people and entities who wanted Kennedy gone.

00:16:11 SPEAKER_005: And he said basically for years beforehand this same thought projection was being pumped into Americans—to inspire people to do it—and that's been constant his whole life.

00:16:28 SPEAKER_005: He could tune in and get negative thought suggestions blanketed over the populace to control them,

00:16:40 SPEAKER_005: which is the same story you hear when people talk about 5G towers putting out vibrational wavelengths making us feel or think certain things.

00:16:49 SPEAKER_005: You know Andrea Buhari invented something back in the fifties that could put thoughts in your head?

00:16:53 SPEAKER_005: Yeah!

00:16:57 SPEAKER_003: And I'd say it wasn't necessarily for Kennedy specifically—I think it's probably a general overlay, kind of a spell on society to stop whoever is getting in the way of the status Q'uo.

00:17:17 SPEAKER_005: I hundred percent agree—and this is what I'm trying to say: we're talking about learning what thoughts are ours—where do they come from?

00:17:29 SPEAKER_005: Who gives us other thoughts?

00:17:31 SPEAKER_005: Could that be other thoughts feeding into us?

00:17:32 SPEAKER_005: Right—you know, both sides of it!

00:17:34 SPEAKER_005: And yeah—they just didn't always distinguish.

00:17:39 SPEAKER_003: So that's a really good idea to understand that kind of process can exist; you're getting it now.

00:17:51 SPEAKER_003: It's just like getting a crowd up into mass hysteria, and it is from this external voice, and then people are going looking back and saying, "Well, how did I fall into that mass hysteria?"

00:18:09 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, then you got the whole Project Bluebeam thing, man.

00:18:12 SPEAKER_005: You know, they've been working on Voice-to-Skull technology for a long time.

00:18:22 SPEAKER_005: Yep, fascinating stuff.

00:18:27 SPEAKER_005: Anyway, where's Andre?

00:18:29 SPEAKER_005: Where's the techno wizard?

00:18:35 SPEAKER_005: Nadette, what are your thoughts on this?

00:18:37 SPEAKER_005: Do you think that, like you know, the world is being suddenly brainwashed by evil wizards?

00:18:47 SPEAKER_005: Do I think so?

00:18:47 SPEAKER_005: That the world is being brainwashed by evil wizards.

00:18:54 SPEAKER_005: Well, you could look at it that way.

00:18:56 SPEAKER_005: That's kind of like the fantasy fairytale version.

00:19:04 SPEAKER_005: I mean, the medieval and stuff.

00:19:06 SPEAKER_005: But it's kind of all the same energy; fifth density.

00:19:12 SPEAKER_005: The fifth-density negative would be comparable.

00:19:15 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, you know, more just like people using magic to manipulate consciousness in America, maybe?

00:19:28 SPEAKER_005: Well, you know.

00:19:29 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, I wouldn't even use the idea of fantasy or medieval.

00:19:36 SPEAKER_005: I'd just go with wizard because it's magic, and we are magical creatures.

00:19:46 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, yeah, that is definitely true.

00:19:49 SPEAKER_005: Don't interrupt me; sorry, give me a second.

00:19:53 SPEAKER_005: It's just the worldview where one might not call them wizards but rather fifth-density masters, negative mass, you know?

00:20:05 SPEAKER_005: But yes, calling them wizards works because we know there is magic.

00:20:15 SPEAKER_002: I think wizard usually implies something more generic, while sorcerer sounds like the bad kind.

00:20:20 SPEAKER_002: I don't know; I just like "sorcerer."

00:20:25 SPEAKER_002: Someone who uses the energy of Source, yeah.

00:20:29 SPEAKER_002: And a wizard translates to one who is wise.

00:20:34 SPEAKER_002: Oh, okay.

00:20:37 SPEAKER_002: Wise?

00:20:38 SPEAKER_002: That interview posted with Carla in 2002 said several times that we are magical creatures.

00:20:50 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, everything.

00:20:51 SPEAKER_005: The definition of magic is you change the inner and then you change the outer, right?

00:20:57 SPEAKER_005: So if we're talking about people blanket-casting thoughts out to try to influence behaviour and influence the social mind, yeah, then you change the inner; you change what people think.

00:21:11 SPEAKER_005: Then you are going to change the world, right?

00:21:15 SPEAKER_005: Oh no, my model of a wizard for me was reading The Sword in the Stone by T.S. Eliot (or possibly White—context suggests T.H. White).

00:21:23 SPEAKER_005: The wizard Merlin was helping him, and I forgot the boy's name; he wanted to be a bird, so he helped him shape-shift and do stuff like that.

00:21:39 SPEAKER_005: You know, I got quite into the whole Merlin mysteries a while ago, and I would go out on a limb and say that Merlin was the Celtic Jesus.

00:21:51 SPEAKER_002: Well, I read that in no way...

00:21:53 SPEAKER_002: No, I'm just going to mute you for now; oh okay, thank you.

00:22:01 SPEAKER_002: I did read that Merlin was an actual historical figure around 700 AD in Britain and he was basically a guy who had what they would call PTSD after a war,

00:22:21 SPEAKER_002: then decided to live out in nature talking to animals and stuff.

00:22:28 SPEAKER_002: A princess consulted with him, and he spoke in riddles but she found it useful.

00:22:36 SPEAKER_002: You know that he was also originally named Myrddin?

00:22:42 SPEAKER_005: Yeah.

00:22:42 SPEAKER_005: But when the Romans came and used the word "murder," they changed his name just kind of to make it seem like he wasn't just murdering people.

00:22:53 SPEAKER_005: You know.

00:22:54 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, those clever Romans.

00:23:00 SPEAKER_005: Yep.

00:23:02 SPEAKER_005: Um...

00:23:06 SPEAKER_005: I want Fred; you're really breaking up.

00:23:10 SPEAKER_005: Can't hear you.

00:23:10 SPEAKER_005: Are you able to hear me now?

00:23:16 SPEAKER_005: No. Okay, there is a real big delay.

00:23:24 SPEAKER_005: Now, I don't remember what song it was about, but I do know in the 1980s Michael Jackson had gotten with his record producer at like three o'clock in the morning.

00:23:43 SPEAKER_005: So we have to get to the studio right now.

00:23:44 SPEAKER_005: I have to get this down.

00:23:45 SPEAKER_005: I have to write these lyrics.

00:23:47 SPEAKER_005: I have to get these lyrics down, and I have to sing this piece.

00:23:50 SPEAKER_005: And the producer's like, "Dude, it's three in the morning.

00:23:54 SPEAKER_005: Can't we wait till morning?"

00:23:56 SPEAKER_005: He said, and this was his response: "This is Michael Jackson."

00:24:01 SPEAKER_005: He said, "No, we have to do it now.

00:24:05 SPEAKER_005: I want it written down and recorded before Prince gets it."

00:24:11 SPEAKER_005: Nice.

00:24:11 SPEAKER_005: Now, why?

00:24:12 SPEAKER_005: How can an artist just basically explain metaphysics because they understand music so well that they understand how it works?

00:24:29 SPEAKER_005: Now, can't you kind of say that everything is that way?

00:24:37 SPEAKER_002: Yes.

00:24:38 SPEAKER_002: Yeah.

00:24:39 SPEAKER_002: So I think that goes with these orthogonal features, diagonal features.

00:24:44 SPEAKER_003: I would say so because Tesla said that more than once: "You know, the information I get doesn't come from my brain; it comes from the ether."

00:24:59 SPEAKER_005: Modern neuroscience says that no thoughts come from your brain whatsoever.

00:25:04 SPEAKER_005: In fact, it acts more like a grid that houses loci, but the actual information is stored externally, non-locally,

00:25:15 SPEAKER_005: and you basically—you know—your brain filters and puts it together so you can get the picture out of it, basically.

00:25:25 SPEAKER_002: And that's why you want to have as long an antenna as possible attached to your brain: having a large beard and long hair because all it is is a receptor for these thoughts and ideas.

00:25:41 SPEAKER_002: You want to have more ideas?

00:25:43 SPEAKER_002: Have longer hair.

00:25:45 SPEAKER_002: Very simple.

00:25:45 SPEAKER_005: Also, also the cool thing about having a beard—I learned this recently—is that I reckon the reason dudes carry on growing long beards is because hair is actually really, really hard to cut through.

00:25:58 SPEAKER_005: So it actually creates like a shield around your neck.

00:26:01 SPEAKER_005: How cool is that?

00:26:03 SPEAKER_003: And Andrei, you don't need to justify yourself for having long hair; just go.

00:26:10 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, dude, you look super cool, man.

00:26:12 SPEAKER_003: I was just giving a rather good remark.

00:26:19 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, yes, but yeah, of the like hundred people I've spoken to, one person made a remark about my hair that I had to explain it was a religious observance.

00:26:35 SPEAKER_003: And remember, The Confederation actually covers it, and then it says: "I think it says all you need is your hair to be shoulder length, eleven centimeters or longer."

00:26:46 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, whatever.

00:26:47 SPEAKER_003: Says eleven centimetres is the minimum.

00:26:49 SPEAKER_003: I mean, that's—you're kind of getting into dogma crap there.

00:26:53 SPEAKER_003: Well, I'm just into the form more than the being.

00:27:00 SPEAKER_002: I have analysis of dogma; that's what turns you on.

00:27:05 SPEAKER_002: You don't... if you want to have short hair, that's totally up to you.

00:27:09 SPEAKER_002: I thought it was weird, yeah.

00:27:11 SPEAKER_005: Buddhist monks shave all their hair off and they're pretty spiritual people, you know?

00:27:16 SPEAKER_002: Ah well, you spend some time in a Buddhist monastery and you'll see what the reality is: The most adept monks are usually Tibetan monks and Nyima monks, and they all have long hair.

00:27:34 SPEAKER_002: Hey, you're okay.

00:27:35 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, but they don't run around the forest naked.

00:27:38 SPEAKER_002: No, no, they don't.

00:27:40 SPEAKER_002: It's very cold in Tibet; there's no forest.

00:27:45 SPEAKER_002: You're just fine how you are, Andrei.

00:27:47 SPEAKER_002: All right, so...

00:27:48 SPEAKER_002: Are you sure?

00:27:49 SPEAKER_002: I'm sure you've had this conversation many times with your wife.

00:27:56 SPEAKER_002: Uh, individuality: Your unique voice is part of your service embodiment.

00:28:01 SPEAKER_002: Communication occurs through being as well as speaking.

00:28:05 SPEAKER_002: Development direct higher guidance may become increasingly widespread.

00:28:11 SPEAKER_002: Decentralization: the division between the spiritual transmitter and audience may gradually dissolve.

00:28:17 SPEAKER_002: Catalyst: external disclosure may provoke internal seeking.

00:28:21 SPEAKER_002: Free will: the timing remains responsive to collective consciousness rather than mechanically fixed.

00:28:28 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, I would agree.

00:28:31 SPEAKER_002: Practice.

00:28:31 SPEAKER_002: The immediate application is surprisingly simple.

00:28:34 SPEAKER_002: Before asking for extraordinary contact, observe your ordinary transmission.

00:28:38 SPEAKER_002: What am I transmitting into the world today?

00:28:41 SPEAKER_002: Then listen more subtly.

00:28:43 SPEAKER_002: What comes through the heart before the analytical mind organises it?

00:28:48 SPEAKER_002: What insight repeatedly asks for expression in your own voice?

00:28:53 SPEAKER_002: Where does love seem to want to move through you?

00:28:56 SPEAKER_002: What changes when you treat yourself as an instrument rather than merely an isolated personality?

00:29:03 SPEAKER_002: The future described by Laitos begins in miniature with the shift of awareness.

00:29:08 SPEAKER_002: The age of universal channeling does not begin when everybody suddenly acquires an exotic ability; it begins when more people recognize that the connection was already present.

00:29:20 SPEAKER_002: Yeah.

00:29:22 SPEAKER_003: All right, I would just like to ask Ed.

00:29:25 SPEAKER_003: So Ed, if none of our thoughts are really original—right?

00:29:31 SPEAKER_003: That everything we kind of get and know is kind of given to us—and the only thing original we have is our desire and intent?

00:29:41 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, I mean it comes more down to: consciousness itself is non-local, so those desires and intentions are non-local too.

00:29:56 SPEAKER_005: The body is literally just the receiver.

00:29:59 SPEAKER_005: But but the desire and the intent is what gives the Creator the data.

00:30:08 SPEAKER_005: I agree; actually, it's also the Creator beaming in to cause the experience to get the data.

00:30:18 SPEAKER_005: We're just tools for Him to do that.

00:30:19 SPEAKER_005: And also Bill: So, Bill, don't forget that we're individual flavours.

00:30:31 SPEAKER_006: So even no matter what—if you know Prince had gotten that song or Michael Jackson had gotten that song—and each of them got the exact same vibrational energy,

00:30:43 SPEAKER_006: each of them would have made the song differently, uniquely their own flavour because of their intentions and because of their desires.

00:30:52 SPEAKER_006: Yes; just because they're unique, yeah.

00:30:58 SPEAKER_006: So what I'm saying is a thousand people can get the exact same idea presented to them, interpret it their own way, and each has their own unique expression of it no matter what.

00:31:12 SPEAKER_006: Yeah, I would definitely say that's how things are done.

00:31:20 SPEAKER_006: So it's basically a matter of your vibration, your intention put out into the universe: You're going to get back the same vibrational energy that you put out.

00:31:32 SPEAKER_006: So if you're a creative person and you like music,

00:31:35 SPEAKER_006: and you put out there "I'm really sad and I want to make a song about this thing that happened to me because it's going to relate to other people," and you put that energy out

00:31:45 SPEAKER_006: there,

00:31:45 SPEAKER_006: you're going to get something back—and it's going to be yours.

00:31:47 SPEAKER_006: It's going to be your flavour to share with everyone else, because everyone else is going to resonate with that; they're on the same congruent vibrational level.

00:31:58 SPEAKER_006: Like when one of the most personal things to someone is their music list:

00:32:05 SPEAKER_006: If you are with a friend or somebody you meet—say you meet a woman—and they say to you "I want to look at your record collection," that's because when we deal with events in our lives

00:32:22 SPEAKER_006: and catalysts,

00:32:24 SPEAKER_006: whether it's the death of a loved one or a change in living situation or maybe a partner breakup or maybe we fall in love—all of those things are processed in the flavour of our oneness.

00:32:42 SPEAKER_006: So if something resonates with you—say a song that really saddens you from someone who passed away—for me when my mom passed away,

00:32:58 SPEAKER_006: literally the song that came on the radio after I left the hospital following her (the last time I saw her) was "Silent Lucidity."

00:33:08 SPEAKER_006: I love that song and it resonated; it was absolutely perfect.

00:33:12 SPEAKER_006: It made me ball my eyes out on the way home but I needed to experience that vibration because that was the vibration my beingness was in.

00:33:23 SPEAKER_006: So when somebody says, "What are your top ten favourites?"

00:33:26 SPEAKER_006: I want to see the top songs on your Spotify list: It's because they're looking and seeing if you handle things the same way as them,

00:33:36 SPEAKER_006: and they can tell just by looking at the music you like!

00:33:46 SPEAKER_006: Wow!

00:33:46 SPEAKER_006: Didn't mean to go on a rant but yeah, I don't know.

00:33:49 SPEAKER_006: I just...

00:33:50 SPEAKER_006: I don't have a Spotify; not everyone does.

00:33:55 SPEAKER_006: Yeah.

00:33:56 SPEAKER_003: Well what you're telling me Fred is that the universe—in a more shortened way—the universe mirrors back to you what you put out.

00:34:06 SPEAKER_003: Oh yeah for sure.

00:34:08 SPEAKER_003: That's one of the Hermetic principles.

00:34:14 SPEAKER_002: And there you have it.

00:34:15 SPEAKER_002: All right, and so let's try the next one.

00:34:20 SPEAKER_002: Thank you Axel; I have a question: In modern culture many people seem to respond quickly to messages—and that's a sign of respect—but sometimes I delay by absence or don't respond at all,

00:34:32 SPEAKER_002: and that might be interpreted as disrespect.

00:34:34 SPEAKER_002: Yet some people communicate differently; it may not feel drawn to respond from a spiritual perspective.

00:34:42 SPEAKER_002: How can one discern whether the silence is an expression of my own authenticity, or if it's a catalyst for growth, or if it's avoidance of relationship?

00:34:52 SPEAKER_002: How can we honour both our own nature and the expectations of others with love?

00:34:58 SPEAKER_003: We are those of Oxalé and we appreciate this query; we hope that we can give you some depth by which to grow from such situations.

00:35:08 SPEAKER_003: These technical advancements that allow communication—in regard as you describe—these gadgets are new to your societal structure.

00:35:19 SPEAKER_003: The rules and etiquette created by such gadgets allow a vast array of interpersonal human contact.

00:35:39 SPEAKER_003: Each message sent is an opportunity to greet with love the message received; however, one chooses to respond in accordance with their free will.

00:35:51 SPEAKER_003: Due to innumerable ways the human mind and programme distortions can create near-incalculable amounts of responses due to your day-to-day living,

00:36:03 SPEAKER_003: we would say that these differences—how two individuals respond or perceive whichever way the response is given to the received message—is incredibly individual.

00:36:16 SPEAKER_003: And we should always be seeing interactions designed to lead you back to love:

00:36:24 SPEAKER_003: If inside you do not feel that you are in resonance with the response at that time then that is your free will and action; there should not, however,

00:36:35 SPEAKER_003: be a tool for negative action as we would always advise finding the love in any interpersonal interaction—be electronic or verbal means.

00:36:46 SPEAKER_003: We would say that this dilemma could come down to the expectation placed by either individual—and that this would be a fruitful place to explore the root of the catalyst.

00:37:00 SPEAKER_003: Additionally we would add that as your race and positive movements in your society develop, the need for gadgets in order to communicate will fall away and the choice to respond will become far more personal.

00:37:18 SPEAKER_003: So these gadgets could be seen as training tools to help one greet messages received with love prior to evolutionary terms of the same description.

00:37:29 SPEAKER_003: We thank you for this query and we hope that this answer has been helpful; would there be any further questions?

00:37:36 SPEAKER_003: As I asked, please clarify if needed.

00:37:41 SPEAKER_003: Thank you Alex; that makes sense.

00:37:43 SPEAKER_003: Okay I guess we'll do the summary on this.

00:38:03 SPEAKER_002: All right how about you guys discuss this for now—I'll just be right back.

00:38:12 SPEAKER_003: So do you guys think not responding to like a text message immediately is a sign of disrespect?

00:38:22 SPEAKER_006: It depends entirely on the intention of why you're doing it: I've not replied to text messages for days because I didn't know exactly what to reply and didn't want to reply with the wrong thing;

00:38:34 SPEAKER_006: I've also replied immediately to text messages when I was very angry, in which case I should have waited an hour or two.

00:38:46 SPEAKER_006: So wise, you know, I've learned both ends of that.

00:38:53 SPEAKER_006: Right, right, right.

00:38:56 SPEAKER_006: But if you're doing it to be a dick, then yeah.

00:38:59 SPEAKER_006: But if you're doing it because you need to think, then no, absolutely not.

00:39:07 SPEAKER_006: Yeah, sometimes I don't even look at my phone for a day or two.

00:39:13 SPEAKER_006: Right, like when I'm at work, I'll open my phone and there's—you know—nine missed messages or whatever, and that happens.

00:39:23 SPEAKER_006: Wow, nine missed messages.

00:39:27 SPEAKER_006: Wow, you're special.

00:39:28 SPEAKER_006: I might get one or two.

00:39:33 SPEAKER_006: Well, that's because you don't have four kids begging you for money.

00:39:36 SPEAKER_006: Oh, oh, oh, oh!

00:39:40 SPEAKER_006: Okay.

00:39:42 SPEAKER_006: That seems like it'd be a column in my favour.

00:39:48 SPEAKER_006: Yeah, it has nothing to do with being special.

00:39:54 SPEAKER_006: Well, you're the special bank.

00:39:58 SPEAKER_002: So every message is an opportunity to greet with love.

00:40:04 SPEAKER_002: These gadgets are new in your societal structures; the rules inadequate that are created by such gadgets allow a bastard raven to personal human catalyst.

00:40:12 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, I would agree because, like—you know—I almost never answer the phone.

00:40:17 SPEAKER_002: Um, and I just call people back if I feel it's important enough.

00:40:23 SPEAKER_002: Um...

00:40:25 SPEAKER_002: So I was very confused by this person: who?

00:40:28 SPEAKER_002: Who asked about quickly responding?

00:40:31 SPEAKER_002: Was it someone that we know?

00:40:35 SPEAKER_002: No, it's in the question.

00:40:37 SPEAKER_002: I know, but Fred was there, wasn't he?

00:40:39 SPEAKER_002: It was Adam.

00:40:40 SPEAKER_002: It was Adam.

00:40:41 SPEAKER_002: It was Adam!

00:40:42 SPEAKER_002: Oh, okay, cool!

00:40:44 SPEAKER_002: You guys ran into this situation.

00:40:47 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, yeah...

00:40:48 SPEAKER_002: Well, well, it was Adam that asked the question.

00:40:54 SPEAKER_002: Yes.

00:40:55 SPEAKER_002: Oh, so Adam is S. Adam is A. Who's S?

00:41:02 SPEAKER_002: Sean was S. Sean.

00:41:05 SPEAKER_002: Oh, okay.

00:41:05 SPEAKER_002: I don't know Sean.

00:41:10 SPEAKER_006: And he—actually—he originally was from the Red Cord channeling that closed down, and he joined us.

00:41:17 SPEAKER_006: He's a very good transcriber and a very good techie to have in a group.

00:41:22 SPEAKER_006: Oh, very good!

00:41:23 SPEAKER_006: Cool...

00:41:28 SPEAKER_006: Um...

00:41:28 SPEAKER_006: So where were we?

00:41:31 SPEAKER_006: Okay...

00:41:33 SPEAKER_002: Each message sent is an opportunity to greet with love: the message received.

00:41:39 SPEAKER_002: Cardinal teaching: The Love Response is freely chosen, not mechanically owed; however, one chooses how or when to respond as a process of free will.

00:41:49 SPEAKER_002: The human mind and the programmed distortions of your day-to-day living can create nearly uncalculable amounts of responses.

00:41:58 SPEAKER_002: Uncalculable?

00:42:00 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, uncalculable!

00:42:02 SPEAKER_002: If inside yourself you do not feel that you are in resonance with a response at that time, then that is your free will in action.

00:42:14 SPEAKER_005: I think that was... what you were talking about, Fred.

00:42:17 SPEAKER_005: You know: if you've got to think about it or do something first—you're like, "Okay, yeah, I'm not gonna respond now," whatever else—then that's your free will because of the circumstances.

00:42:30 SPEAKER_005: So you can't always answer straight away, can you?

00:42:36 SPEAKER_005: Yeah...

00:42:36 SPEAKER_005: That makes sense!

00:42:38 SPEAKER_002: And you gotta have priorities; and I know when I was younger and had fewer things to do, I would respond to a lot of messages—but now it's just not possible.

00:42:51 SPEAKER_002: I can't respond to everything.

00:42:53 SPEAKER_002: Like, I have to pick and choose what I respond to.

00:43:00 SPEAKER_002: And it has a lot to do with...

00:43:03 SPEAKER_006: You can also always use a blanket response if you just don't want to respond: "Let me get back to you after I've counselled with my attorney."

00:43:17 SPEAKER_002: That's that very American response!

00:43:21 SPEAKER_002: We don't do that in Canada.

00:43:24 SPEAKER_002: But maybe in America, that would fly.

00:43:27 SPEAKER_002: Do you guys not have attorneys in Canada?

00:43:31 SPEAKER_002: No...

00:43:33 SPEAKER_002: Well, we do have a constitution and rights here.

00:43:38 SPEAKER_002: It's just like no one can afford an attorney—that's ridiculous!

00:43:42 SPEAKER_002: Wait—we have solicitors.

00:43:43 SPEAKER_002: Is that the same thing?

00:43:46 SPEAKER_002: You might have solicitors; we definitely have lawyers—but I've only ever heard people use them for divorce or real estate (where they sign off on mortgage agreements).

00:44:11 SPEAKER_002: So, America is a very litigious society, but there's almost no one suing anyone in Canada because it's nearly impossible to go to jail—you'd basically have to commit murder!

00:44:26 SPEAKER_005: Like, rehabilitation in Canada is just hugs.

00:44:31 SPEAKER_005: Huh?

00:44:32 SPEAKER_005: What was that?

00:44:34 SPEAKER_005: I said: "Rehabilitation in Canada is just hugs."

00:44:37 SPEAKER_005: Yeah...

00:44:38 SPEAKER_005: Basically, yeah!

00:44:40 SPEAKER_005: You know what they call a revolving door?

00:44:43 SPEAKER_002: If you commit a crime under a certain level, you get released within an hour—they give you a stern warning and say, "We're going to write a letter!"

00:45:00 SPEAKER_002: Oh no—you can't do that.

00:45:02 SPEAKER_002: That would be considered intimidation!

00:45:11 SPEAKER_002: They aren't allowed to intimidate you...

00:45:28 SPEAKER_002: There was this guy who had multiple criminal offenses; then the person committing all those crimes said he didn't like Canada, so the cop said, "Well, go back wherever you came from."

00:45:43 SPEAKER_002: And then that cop got suspended!

00:45:47 SPEAKER_002: Can you believe it?

00:45:50 SPEAKER_002: Yeah—because the other guy felt intimidated.

00:46:00 SPEAKER_002: Hmm...

00:46:02 SPEAKER_002: But I mean, it's reasonable: if someone says they don't like it here, whatever.

00:46:08 SPEAKER_002: Anyways, authentic silence is a valid use of free will.

00:46:15 SPEAKER_002: Different communication styles!

00:46:19 SPEAKER_002: Okay—the purpose of interaction.

00:46:21 SPEAKER_002: Technology creates artificial proximity; technology availability isn't the same as spiritual, emotional or relational availability.

00:46:29 SPEAKER_002: The gadget is a training tool—these gadgets could be seen as tools to help one greet messages received with love.

00:46:36 SPEAKER_002: When technology itself becomes part of spiritual practice, every notification creates a tiny moment of choice: Do I respond from obligation, fear, annoyance, excitement, control, compassion, authenticity—or love?

00:46:48 SPEAKER_002: The phone becomes an unusually persistent catalyst because it continually places other selves before our awareness.

00:46:55 SPEAKER_002: Modern messaging can therefore function almost like spiritual exercise—repeated dozens of times each day!

00:47:02 SPEAKER_002: Yeah...

00:47:02 SPEAKER_002: For me, the most relatable would be comments on my posts—I respond to well-most of them—and try to do so in a timely fashion before people get the wrong impression.

00:47:20 SPEAKER_002: The choice is: responding will become far more personal.

00:47:25 SPEAKER_002: This suggests communication itself may become more immediate while respect for individual free will becomes even more important!

00:47:32 SPEAKER_002: Technology trains people to encourage continual communication; the spiritual lesson is learning how to receive that communication lovingly, without turning connection into compulsion.

00:47:44 SPEAKER_002: Orthogonal features: Free Will—receiving a message does not determine how or when you must respond.

00:47:49 SPEAKER_002: Authenticity—a lack of resonance with responding at that moment can be a legitimate inner signal.

00:47:55 SPEAKER_002: Love—freedom should still be exercised in a loving orientation rather than used as a weapon.

00:48:02 SPEAKER_002: Expectation—much interpersonal catalyst comes from assumptions about what another person should do.

00:48:08 SPEAKER_002: Individuality—communication styles differ greatly between people!

00:48:12 SPEAKER_002: Catalyst friction around messaging can reveal deeper patterns within the self.

00:48:17 SPEAKER_002: Modern communication devices repeatedly give us opportunities to practice greeting other selves with love.

00:48:25 SPEAKER_002: Evolution—the gadgets may be temporary tools preparing humanity for more direct forms of communication.

00:48:30 SPEAKER_002: That's fair enough...

00:48:33 SPEAKER_002: Okay: Cardinal principles—Receive freely, respond freely; examine expectations and find the Love!

00:48:50 SPEAKER_002: Questioner Fred, did you want to read it?

00:48:59 SPEAKER_002: Hello—is anybody there?

00:49:02 SPEAKER_002: I'm here!

00:49:02 SPEAKER_002: If you want me to, can you hear me?

00:49:05 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, sure—you might as well because it was you, right?

00:49:07 SPEAKER_002: So... okay.

00:49:10 SPEAKER_002: Dog Bandit!

00:49:14 SPEAKER_002: Um...

00:49:16 SPEAKER_015: Yes—thank you, Axel (Oxal).

00:49:18 SPEAKER_015: I have a query completely different than what we've been talking about: Is there any way that you could possibly connect with the canine energy?

00:49:26 SPEAKER_015: However, you do that with my marine son's dog whose name is Bandit.

00:49:32 SPEAKER_015: He's very old and has stopped eating and drinking—I just want to know if he's giving up on life or something else going on since he was diagnosed with nothing wrong; otherwise perfect health!

00:49:47 SPEAKER_015: Is there any way you could connect with something—some way—to clarify what I feel is happening?

00:49:54 SPEAKER_003: We are those of Oxal, and we shall attempt to help with your query in the limited ways that we're able.

00:50:01 SPEAKER_003: Oh... sounds like they don't want to interfere with free will.

00:50:04 SPEAKER_003: The canine is suffering in some way!

00:50:07 SPEAKER_003: We would say with hopelessness; this is not fully clear.

00:50:12 SPEAKER_003: Many second-density companion entities form near levels of emotional connection over their lives,

00:50:19 SPEAKER_003: but the second-density form in which they inhabit is not always built to be able to process these feelings as clearly as humans can.

00:50:29 SPEAKER_003: This is one of the final steps in second density consciousness:

00:50:33 SPEAKER_003: to understand that self has individuality via these emotional cues and ties that the companion aspect of their nature creates opportunities for their spirits to individualize in such a way.

00:50:50 SPEAKER_003: Visualize it so that human incarnation is the natural next placement.

00:50:57 SPEAKER_003: Do not despair, for all creatures have different awarenesses of life's beauty.

00:51:02 SPEAKER_003: We would advise giving as much love and devotion to an animal's care, and to show that it is still unique and beautiful, even if it is not what it once was physically.

00:51:14 SPEAKER_003: We hope this has helped, and we can assure you that it knows that it is loved.

00:51:24 SPEAKER_003: All right.

00:51:26 SPEAKER_003: Well, there you have, folks.

00:51:30 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, I don't think we need to break that one down too much.

00:51:33 SPEAKER_003: Okay.

00:51:33 SPEAKER_003: All right.

00:51:34 SPEAKER_003: We kind of get it; just somebody else disagrees.

00:51:38 SPEAKER_003: Fred, did you want to come?

00:51:41 SPEAKER_003: It was just very nice to hear that.

00:51:44 SPEAKER_018: That was like one of the signifiers of an animal signaling that it is going over the hump.

00:51:57 SPEAKER_018: No, it was a beautiful answer.

00:52:01 SPEAKER_018: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:52:04 SPEAKER_018: Yeah, I mean, quite reassuring, and you know, yes.

00:52:16 SPEAKER_018: Okay.

00:52:17 SPEAKER_005: They said about how the second-density form isn't always built to handle emotions.

00:52:24 SPEAKER_005: So, like as compact more, they experience those emotions but don't always know what to do with them; does that make sense?

00:52:32 SPEAKER_003: Yes, and the important part is that they are being individualized so that they can become aware and make the next jump.

00:52:44 SPEAKER_003: Hmm.

00:52:46 SPEAKER_006: And also, it's very interesting to point out that since second-to-third density transition involves our own hang-ups when going from third, we don't have the capacity to process everything yet;

00:53:06 SPEAKER_006: we will have the capacity in fourth density.

00:53:11 SPEAKER_006: So yeah, being dual incarnated certainly helps.

00:53:18 SPEAKER_006: And he did.

00:53:20 SPEAKER_006: That was on Sunday, and then Tuesday Bandit passed away.

00:53:25 SPEAKER_006: Oh wow!

00:53:29 SPEAKER_006: Wow.

00:53:30 SPEAKER_006: And he—he was my son.

00:53:32 SPEAKER_006: My Marine son was here, so his owner—you know—my boy that it is his dog.

00:53:38 SPEAKER_006: He was there with him, with his fiancée and my daughter.

00:53:40 SPEAKER_006: So...

00:53:41 SPEAKER_006: No, that actually sounds quite beautiful.

00:53:45 SPEAKER_006: Yeah, yeah.

00:53:47 SPEAKER_006: It sounds like a good passing.

00:53:49 SPEAKER_006: Yeah, especially getting that information right before it happened; better than just getting like a lethal shot at the vet.

00:54:00 SPEAKER_006: Probably.

00:54:05 SPEAKER_006: But you know, there are different ways to go, I guess.

00:54:11 SPEAKER_006: Well, Axel said that the dog knew it was loved.

00:54:18 SPEAKER_003: So just that feeling—ability—that feeling helps it individualize more than anything else.

00:54:26 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, because it has self-reference, right?

00:54:30 SPEAKER_003: Even in that statement, right?

00:54:31 SPEAKER_003: It is going to become aware that it is a separate entity; another self.

00:54:39 SPEAKER_003: Um...

00:54:44 SPEAKER_003: Yes.

00:54:51 SPEAKER_003: Nanette, did you want to chime in or are you good?

00:54:54 SPEAKER_003: I just—Okay.

00:54:57 SPEAKER_003: Hi Sal.

00:55:01 SPEAKER_002: Thank you so much for your service tonight.

00:55:03 SPEAKER_002: My question relates to our telepathy exercises that we perform every week: we're learning to tap into our energy signatures.

00:55:10 SPEAKER_002: I'm curious if you have anything to share, any guidance on what to look for when we are trying to understand each other's unique signatures—whether we need to see or feel; any thoughts you can share?

00:55:22 SPEAKER_002: That would be appreciated.

00:55:23 SPEAKER_002: Thank you.

00:55:26 SPEAKER_003: We are those of Axol.

00:55:28 SPEAKER_003: We are really thankful for this query.

00:55:30 SPEAKER_003: This is such an important area for human beings to start developing, and we are so joyous watching your progressions and experimentations into this area.

00:55:44 SPEAKER_003: We would say that understanding vibrational templates is much like watching waves on a flat pool; well, that's probably what it means—watching waves on a flat pool.

00:55:56 SPEAKER_003: The chakras could be seen as stones dropped into the water, and the ripples and how they interact could be seen as the entire system.

00:56:08 SPEAKER_003: When looking for those patterns, each individual will find their optimal way of sensing and interpreting those vibrations.

00:56:17 SPEAKER_003: For some, it may be ripples of colour; for others, something more akin to a melody.

00:56:25 SPEAKER_003: Only the seeker will be able to refine the interpretation and awareness in their own way.

00:56:30 SPEAKER_003: We would say that.

00:56:32 SPEAKER_003: We would say, though, this is vital work along the path of connection: realizing the vibrational connection between you all will help you to realize that you are all one,

00:56:45 SPEAKER_003: and remember that—that love is always central.

00:56:49 SPEAKER_003: That every signature that will be the strongest vibration to find, and the one that will more strongly link you all together.

00:56:58 SPEAKER_003: I hope this has helped, my brother.

00:56:59 SPEAKER_003: Is there anything else I can clarify?

00:57:03 SPEAKER_003: Well, it sounds like I better be going to this group every Saturday night at eight o'clock.

00:57:12 SPEAKER_003: Saturday?

00:57:12 SPEAKER_003: I thought it was Sunday.

00:57:14 SPEAKER_003: Okay, did you have to move it?

00:57:16 SPEAKER_006: Sunday is the channeling group; Saturday is telepathy.

00:57:19 SPEAKER_006: Oh, okay, okay, okay.

00:57:23 SPEAKER_006: Got it.

00:57:27 SPEAKER_006: All right.

00:57:28 SPEAKER_006: Well, I wasn't allowed to participate, so I decided not to attend.

00:57:37 SPEAKER_006: Okay, let's do this.

00:57:41 SPEAKER_006: Okay, now for this: So Oxl presents each person as having a unique vibrational pattern that can gradually be sensed and interpreted; understanding the vibrational templates is much like watching waves on a platform.

00:58:08 SPEAKER_002: The image is of a living pattern rather than a single fixed signal.

00:58:12 SPEAKER_002: Monkse continues.

00:58:14 SPEAKER_002: The chakras could be seen as stones dropped into the water, and the ripples and how they interact can be seen as the entire system.

00:58:22 SPEAKER_002: Each chakra contributes something to the total pattern.

00:58:27 SPEAKER_002: Cardinal teaching: Do not search for one universal way to perceive another person's energy; learn the way your own awareness naturally receives vibrations.

00:58:36 SPEAKER_002: Each individual will find their optimal way of sensing and interpreting those vibrations.

00:58:41 SPEAKER_002: The whole signature is a part-pattern of interaction.

00:58:45 SPEAKER_002: The chakras could be seen as stones dropped into the water, and the ripples and how they interact can be seen as the entire system.

00:58:53 SPEAKER_002: A person's signatures are therefore more than identifying the state of one centre; the centres affect one another.

00:59:01 SPEAKER_002: A strong vibration in one centre changes the larger pattern.

00:59:05 SPEAKER_002: Blockage or activation elsewhere changes how the entire field is expressed.

00:59:10 SPEAKER_002: The object of perception is the relationship among the ripples.

00:59:15 SPEAKER_002: This suggests that energetic sensing becomes richer as one learns to perceive patterns rather than isolated impressions.

00:59:23 SPEAKER_002: Perception may cross the ordinary senses: for some, it may be ripples of colour; for others, something more akin to melody.

00:59:32 SPEAKER_002: One seeker may experience energetic information visually; another may experience it almost musically.

00:59:39 SPEAKER_002: Others may presumably encounter it through whatever mode their witness most readily uses.

00:59:45 SPEAKER_002: The important point is that underlying vibration can be translated differently by different perceivers.

00:59:50 SPEAKER_002: Your inner language has to be learned.

00:59:52 SPEAKER_002: Only the seeker will be able to refine the interpretation and awareness in their own way.

00:59:57 SPEAKER_002: This places responsibility upon the seeker.

01:00:00 SPEAKER_002: Another person may offer exercises or suggestions, but nobody else can completely provide the dictionary of your own perception.

01:00:09 SPEAKER_002: Sensing and interpreting are different skills: first, something is perceived; then the mind gives meaning to it.

01:00:16 SPEAKER_002: These should be distinguished.

01:00:18 SPEAKER_002: The seeker may accurately sense change while misinterpreting what it means, or the seeker may receive a subtle impression but dismiss it because it does not resemble the form of perception they expected.

01:00:30 SPEAKER_002: Development therefore involves improving sensitivity and discernment: What did I actually perceive, and only then what might that perception mean?

01:00:40 SPEAKER_002: Experimentation is part of development; progression and experimentation into the superior are presented positively.

01:00:48 SPEAKER_002: The faculty develops through trying, comparing, observing, and gradually learning one's own perceptual language.

01:00:55 SPEAKER_002: There is room for uncertainty.

01:00:57 SPEAKER_002: One does not need to begin with perfect accuracy.

01:00:59 SPEAKER_002: The process itself is part of learning how awareness functions.

01:01:04 SPEAKER_002: Oxl then explains why this work matters: This is vital work along the path of connection; Oxl immediately connects this with unity.

01:01:15 SPEAKER_002: Realizing the vibrational connection between you all will help you realize that you are all one.

01:01:22 SPEAKER_002: Individual signatures exist within a deeper unity.

01:01:27 SPEAKER_002: Love is the strongest vibration in the signature.

01:01:30 SPEAKER_002: Remember that love is always central in every signature.

01:01:36 SPEAKER_002: That gives the signature a centre of orientation.

01:01:40 SPEAKER_002: Love is also what connects the signatures and the one that will most strongly link you all together.

01:01:48 SPEAKER_002: So, orthogonal features: patterns emerge from the interaction of the whole chakra system; different people sense the same kind of vibration through different inner modalities.

01:01:58 SPEAKER_002: Interpretation must gradually be translated into one's own inner language.

01:02:02 SPEAKER_002: Experimentation: sensitivity develops through practice and observation rather than through one prescribed method.

01:02:08 SPEAKER_002: Connection: the purpose of perceiving vibration is deeper connection, oneness.

01:02:13 SPEAKER_002: Recognizing vibrational connection helps reveal the unity underlying apparent separation.

01:02:18 SPEAKER_002: Love—love is the strongest vibration within the signature and the strongest link between beings.

01:02:23 SPEAKER_002: These elements describe both how the faculty develops and why it matters.

01:02:29 SPEAKER_002: Okay?

01:02:30 SPEAKER_002: Sense?

01:02:31 SPEAKER_003: I think we should have read on because there's more.

01:02:36 SPEAKER_003: Oh, there's more; there's more to this.

01:02:37 SPEAKER_003: Okay, sure, sure.

01:02:42 SPEAKER_003: Yeah.

01:02:42 SPEAKER_003: Okay.

01:02:42 SPEAKER_003: Yes—you can finish what you're doing, but we got more on the same deal: just sense in your own way, learn your inner language, follow the pattern toward connection, find the love within the signature.

01:02:57 SPEAKER_002: Yes, thank you.

01:02:57 SPEAKER_002: That was beautiful; I loved the visualization of the ripples.

01:03:00 SPEAKER_002: I'm afraid I want to ask more in practical terms or about a practical approach—whether we should be meditating and visualizing something or trying to feel them out.

01:03:09 SPEAKER_002: I'm trying to understand more.

01:03:10 SPEAKER_002: If you can explain—and I'm sorry if I'm asking you to repeat yourself, but I'm trying to understand it more—in practical terms: that is what we should be doing?

01:03:17 SPEAKER_002: Thinking about reading the signature?

01:03:19 SPEAKER_002: Thank you.

01:03:22 SPEAKER_003: We are those of Oxl, and we are happy to explain further.

01:03:26 SPEAKER_003: Each individual mind-body-spirit complex has its own unique configuration of inner and outer senses that allow it to model third-density experience.

01:03:38 SPEAKER_003: Most of the things that you already sense are vital; what you already sense is vibrational.

01:03:41 SPEAKER_003: The eyes pick up photons, which are just vibration.

01:03:45 SPEAKER_003: The ears sonically—I correct this instrument—the ears pick up the sonic vibration of air molecules.

01:03:53 SPEAKER_003: Taste and smell are the resonant vibrations of chemicals.

01:03:58 SPEAKER_003: The inner senses work in similar analogues, except the vibrations are ones that you are not normally aware of.

01:04:05 SPEAKER_003: Awareness is key: open yourself; this is key—open yourself up to those awarenesses.

01:04:12 SPEAKER_003: Let the range of vibrations you can sense expand.

01:04:17 SPEAKER_003: Think between the senses, the gaps.

01:04:20 SPEAKER_003: Nothing is empty.

01:04:22 SPEAKER_003: By expanding the awareness in whatever way is most suited for that mind-body-spirit configuration, will allow you to slowly, as systems develop, have greater realization and interpretation of what this awareness begins to open up to.

01:04:40 SPEAKER_003: May we say all here—and many who read or hear this—are able and should be taking those steps in awareness?

01:04:50 SPEAKER_003: As we have said, the first step on all these endeavors is to find love: The heart expresses more of your vibrational field than the mind.

01:05:02 SPEAKER_003: When attempting to communicate in any way, the heart is a closer expression to the truth.

01:05:10 SPEAKER_003: We hope this has helped; do you have another brief question at this time?

01:05:16 SPEAKER_003: Okay—that's it for now.

01:05:19 SPEAKER_003: Okay.

01:05:21 SPEAKER_002: Yeah.

01:05:22 SPEAKER_002: All right—so let's see if we can get one more brief on that.

01:05:26 SPEAKER_002: It was pretty brief; I don't want to do it too long.

01:05:32 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

01:05:39 SPEAKER_002: See, for most of the things you already sense are vibrational: sight receives photons; hearing receives vibrations; taste and smell responsible for your interactions.

01:05:52 SPEAKER_002: Awareness is key.

01:05:53 SPEAKER_002: Open yourself up to awareness; let the range of vibrations you can sense expand.

01:06:00 SPEAKER_002: Awareness is the doorway through which the inner senses develop—which then develops further.

01:06:04 SPEAKER_002: Perceive the gaps.

01:06:05 SPEAKER_002: Think in between the senses, the gaps.

01:06:07 SPEAKER_002: Nothing is empty.

01:06:08 SPEAKER_002: This suggests loosening the usual categories of sight, sound, touch, thought, and feeling.

01:06:13 SPEAKER_002: Subtle perception may rise between those familiar channels: greater realization and interpretation of what this awareness begins to open you up to.

01:06:22 SPEAKER_002: First comes perception; then through practice comes understanding.

01:06:27 SPEAKER_002: The heart is the primary orientation—the first step in all these endeavors—is to find love.

01:06:33 SPEAKER_002: The heart expresses more of your vibrational field than the mind.

01:06:38 SPEAKER_002: This suggests that subtle communications should begin with the heart rather than intellectual analysis.

01:06:44 SPEAKER_002: When attempting to communicate in any way, the heart offers a closer expression to truth.

01:06:49 SPEAKER_002: Cardinal practice: expand awareness; attend to the spaces between familiar senses; let perception develop in its own form; begin with love; and listen through the heart.

01:07:01 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

01:07:05 SPEAKER_002: Um...

01:07:10 SPEAKER_002: Did you guys have any comments on that?

01:07:11 SPEAKER_002: Or I guess that's pretty straightforward.

01:07:16 SPEAKER_003: No, that's pretty awesome!

01:07:17 SPEAKER_003: I mean, the biggest thing is looking in between.

01:07:22 SPEAKER_003: You know—where there is no nothingness.

01:07:27 SPEAKER_003: Uh-huh.

01:07:28 SPEAKER_002: Okay, Fred: do you know what we should read—the Lekesh greeting—or skip to your question?

01:07:39 SPEAKER_002: What opposition do you have to Lekesh?

01:07:43 SPEAKER_002: Well... just Lekesh.

01:07:46 SPEAKER_002: It's got a long intro here; I don't know if it was worth reading or if we should just skip straight to the question.

01:07:56 SPEAKER_002: Well, no—do whatever you want to do.

01:07:59 SPEAKER_002: Okay, okay, fair enough!

01:08:04 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, let's let's—I guess we might as well.

01:08:07 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, it's no big deal.

01:08:08 SPEAKER_003: I mean, there has got to be an endless amount of Confederation people.

01:08:13 SPEAKER_003: Yeah...

01:08:14 SPEAKER_003: Okay, go ahead, Bill: "Oh, Lakesh greetings, beloved.

01:08:20 SPEAKER_003: We are with you again—happily with you again!

01:08:24 SPEAKER_003: We are those of the Lakesh; we are those of the Lakash, greeting you in the love and stupendous light of our One Infinite Creator.

01:08:30 SPEAKER_003: We are again happy to be with you and to share space with our brothers and sisters of Latios and Oxal.

01:08:38 SPEAKER_003: We are very pleased at the discussions and questions that have been asked by your precious selves.

01:08:44 SPEAKER_003: We are overjoyed at your progress as a collective at this time—far beyond what your eyes can see!

01:08:50 SPEAKER_003: A marvelous transformation is in the works within your collective heart, and it is very, very good.

01:08:57 SPEAKER_003: We will continue to support this transition; and in support of this transition, we offer a brief transmission:

01:09:07 SPEAKER_003: We of Lakish sincerely request that you open your hearts—one of the easiest practices being more engagement with playtime!

01:09:19 SPEAKER_003: Oh, okay... one of the easiest practices to engage more in is the act of playtime.

01:09:26 SPEAKER_003: Yes—we don't play enough!

01:09:27 SPEAKER_003: You may be what you have called adults; however,

01:09:32 SPEAKER_003: the vibration of this action—the series of actions and state of consciousness activated when you engage in play—is a quite advanced state that will pave the way for an easier experience and cultivation of spirit:

01:09:51 SPEAKER_003: spiritual maturity.

01:09:53 SPEAKER_003: We offer the idea that it is very important for you to play—for you to engage in this vibration.

01:10:00 SPEAKER_003: When the goal is simply to enjoy, explore, and express, it becomes a vibrational state—and your science has revealed this as well,

01:10:09 SPEAKER_003: to some degree—that forming new connections within your mind creates an additional set of connections formed within your metaphysical beingness.

01:10:22 SPEAKER_003: The Green Ray is supported by the vibration of play and playtime!

01:10:26 SPEAKER_003: And if this idea seems absurd to you, our dearly beloveds—this is the perfect catalyst to initiate growth: for as you discover why the idea of play,

01:10:37 SPEAKER_003: the idea of letting yourself play and have moments simply to experience, express, and explore with no agenda and no shame—if this idea feels abhorrent therein lies the fruit!

01:10:51 SPEAKER_003: For as you unravel what keeps you from being able to engage in play and playtime—truly—you will begin to untie the knot of wounds associated with judgment, self-worth, and shame.

01:11:05 SPEAKER_003: And these three denser catalysts—the mind, heart, and body—are truly what keep individuals from fully expressing Green Ray energy!

01:11:16 SPEAKER_003: It is fear—and the fear to be fully open-hearted.

01:11:19 SPEAKER_003: And so we invite your friends to begin untieing the knot of fear within the Green Ray through the act of play and playtime: it can be as simple as walking barefoot through a forest,

01:11:36 SPEAKER_003: seeing how many cool sticks you can find, using them in all manner of delight; stacking rocks; or making noise—noise-making with bottles!

01:11:49 SPEAKER_003: The transmission was not as brief as we intended—but we are grateful for the chance to share it.

01:11:55 SPEAKER_003: At this time, we would briefly offer ourselves to service regarding queries received and reflected upon:

01:12:03 SPEAKER_003: reiterating that you are truly the great source of knowledge you seek—and use your discernment to assess the vibration of words; reference them to your heart; be the decider of what you will receive!

01:12:19 SPEAKER_003: We are Lakish—we are at your service now.

01:12:23 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, and you got to remember to be that kind of childlike—to play in a way that brings joy—and we're always trying to look for more joy because that is what the Creator is.

01:12:47 SPEAKER_005: There's another whole side to this I thought of: like when she was saying it—that's about gamification!

01:12:56 SPEAKER_005: You know—the idea that if you turn things into games, people learn better?

01:13:02 SPEAKER_005: If you want people to spend more time on your website—if you have little Easter egg-type things for them to click and find—they'll spend hours there.

01:13:11 SPEAKER_005: Doing it—you know—like gamifying something makes it more enjoyable in every regard: whatever it is doesn't matter; just make it fun, turn it into a game—it's better!

01:13:24 SPEAKER_003: You know—in America, back in the early seventies, we had Schoolhouse Rock on Saturday morning cartoons: basically songs and cartoons teaching kids things.

01:13:49 SPEAKER_003: So when you put music to what you want people to learn... kind of makes it a game; becomes much easier for people to learn—and I think that can be done as adults too!

01:14:03 SPEAKER_005: Hundred percent, man!

01:14:04 SPEAKER_005: And I think that's kind of what they're saying—that by the act of us playing we can rediscover so much more about ourselves.

01:14:16 SPEAKER_005: As adults where we don't think like children... well—we've been cutting ourselves off—you know what I mean?

01:14:23 SPEAKER_003: Well, we're opening the vibration of joy; and that vibration helps open the heart—and connects with reality itself: the universe!

01:14:37 SPEAKER_003: which is the creator, which is joyful.

01:14:41 SPEAKER_003: Totally, dude, bliss mode.

01:14:42 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, I love it.

01:14:50 SPEAKER_003: So okay, it says playtime.

01:15:03 SPEAKER_003: I would also say too much play can lead to you know boredom, so you gotta balance it out.

01:15:14 SPEAKER_005: It would also make sense that they're advising play, considering you know that time frame thing, right?

01:15:26 SPEAKER_005: You know, like we only get about 90 years instead of nine hundred years, right?

01:15:30 SPEAKER_005: So we are perpetually children.

01:15:31 SPEAKER_005: Actually, children.

01:15:33 SPEAKER_005: So why wouldn't playing be the best way?

01:15:36 SPEAKER_005: Yeah.

01:15:38 SPEAKER_005: Well, Raw told us that like we'd have to live to be like 150 to 200 to you know start really growing up.

01:15:48 SPEAKER_005: That's it.

01:15:48 SPEAKER_005: You know, nine hundred year lifespan.

01:15:50 SPEAKER_005: We are barely toddlers.

01:15:54 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, it's true.

01:15:59 SPEAKER_005: So yeah, I did a combo lesson here.

01:16:05 SPEAKER_002: The goal is simply to enjoy and explore and express.

01:16:08 SPEAKER_002: Play is a state where experience becomes worthwhile in itself.

01:16:12 SPEAKER_002: We explore because we are curious, create because we enjoy creating, and follow what feels alive, without requiring every action to produce an external result.

01:16:22 SPEAKER_002: Playtime is a state that is quite advanced, one that will pave the way for an easier experience in the cultivation of spiritual maturity.

01:16:32 SPEAKER_002: Cardinality: Follow curiosity into joyful, whole-hearted activity, without constantly demanding an outcome.

01:16:40 SPEAKER_002: This connects naturally with what psychology calls intrinsic motivation, and some circumstances flow.

01:16:47 SPEAKER_002: Flow is the deeply absorbed state where attention becomes immersed in what we are doing, and excessive self-consciousness falls away.

01:16:54 SPEAKER_002: Laitos's consumption of play is broader than flow since even wandering through a forest looking for interesting sticks can qualify, yet both share an important quality:

01:17:04 SPEAKER_002: the activity is being lived from within rather than performed for an external reward.

01:17:10 SPEAKER_002: A person can therefore bring play into normally called work: writing, gardening, coding, researching.

01:17:17 SPEAKER_002: Solving difficult problems can become playful when curiosity and enjoyment guide the activity.

01:17:21 SPEAKER_002: Play creates connections; you form new connections within your minds, and there is an additional set of connections formed within your metaphysical beingness.

01:17:30 SPEAKER_002: Following curiosity encourages unexpected associations.

01:17:34 SPEAKER_002: One idea leads to another.

01:17:35 SPEAKER_002: Experiment replaces rigid control.

01:17:37 SPEAKER_002: We discover possibilities that a narrowly goal-driven approach might never encounter.

01:17:43 SPEAKER_002: This resembles the exploratory quality of flow in creative work.

01:17:47 SPEAKER_002: Attention becomes engaged through the new pattern to engage.

01:17:51 SPEAKER_002: Play supports the open heart.

01:17:51 SPEAKER_002: The green ray is supported by the vibration of play and play, vibration of play in playtime.

01:17:56 SPEAKER_002: This goes beyond creativity.

01:17:57 SPEAKER_002: Play supports opening the heart.

01:17:59 SPEAKER_002: Why might adults struggle with it?

01:18:01 SPEAKER_002: Because genuinely free play asks us to simply experience and express and explore with no agenda and no shame.

01:18:07 SPEAKER_002: That can expose our attachment to productivity, seriousness, social approval, and appearing respectable.

01:18:13 SPEAKER_002: Ah, Blockesha identifies the deeper knots as judgment, self-worth, and shame, and beneath them, the fear to be fully open-hearted.

01:18:21 SPEAKER_002: Play gives us practice in expressing ourselves before asking whether the expression is impressive, profitable, productive, or approved by others; follow what feels alive.

01:18:31 SPEAKER_002: This suggests a simple spiritual practice: Notice what genuinely interests you.

01:18:38 SPEAKER_002: Follow a question because you want to know the answer.

01:18:41 SPEAKER_002: Make something because it's enjoyable.

01:18:44 SPEAKER_002: Cardinal practice sentence: Follow your curiosity.

01:18:48 SPEAKER_002: Enjoy the doing itself.

01:18:49 SPEAKER_002: Explore without demanding an outcome.

01:18:51 SPEAKER_002: When judgment or shame interrupts the play, notice the knot and gently return to the open.

01:18:58 SPEAKER_002: There you go.

01:19:01 SPEAKER_002: Now I can justify having played Rim World for two weeks a month ago.

01:19:10 SPEAKER_002: Well, I wanted to be quick.

01:19:14 SPEAKER_002: Oh, I didn't.

01:19:16 SPEAKER_002: Ed and Bill were talking at the same time, so I didn't understand either of you.

01:19:20 SPEAKER_002: Go ahead, Ed.

01:19:23 SPEAKER_002: I was just making the same joke about Andre and his roaming world.

01:19:27 SPEAKER_002: Oh, all right, okay.

01:19:28 SPEAKER_002: Anyways, Bill, go ahead.

01:19:30 SPEAKER_003: No, I was going to say, and this is in all seriousness, that one of the greatest forms of play we the Creator gives us is our sexual expression.

01:19:43 SPEAKER_003: So, if you can get a good partner and you know really have some fun, you know that's one of the greatest things we can do.

01:19:52 SPEAKER_003: That was featured a lot in that book, Two One Fifty A.D. Oh, okay.

01:19:56 SPEAKER_003: Yeah.

01:19:58 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, the future sounds fun.

01:20:00 SPEAKER_003: Yeah.

01:20:02 SPEAKER_003: Well, I don't know how realistic that is, but it is what it is.

01:20:08 SPEAKER_003: Um.

01:20:09 SPEAKER_003: Okay.

01:20:10 SPEAKER_003: Questioner F: Lakesh,

01:20:12 SPEAKER_002: I have a question relating to what you were saying about the green ray supporting play mentality and play mentality being a high vibrational state that forms new connections in our mind and in our metaphysical

01:20:24 SPEAKER_002: beingness also.

01:20:26 SPEAKER_002: It being a social conundrum of mine for many years where literally will not play games with my best friend because he becomes violent sometimes because when he loses.

01:20:35 SPEAKER_002: Oh, well, that sounds like a child friend.

01:20:39 SPEAKER_002: According to your understanding of the play mentality, I'm confused.

01:20:44 SPEAKER_002: Am I supposed to just make a super duper awesome Magic: The Gathering deck and just play like I actually would like to and probably win, and allow him to process that catalyst?

01:20:54 SPEAKER_002: Or do I just do what I've done always and not play as good as I could to placate the emotional situation?

01:21:00 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

01:21:00 SPEAKER_002: You like that one, huh?

01:21:08 SPEAKER_002: I do like it.

01:21:10 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

01:21:11 SPEAKER_003: Go ahead, Bill.

01:21:13 SPEAKER_003: All right.

01:21:15 SPEAKER_003: We are Lakesh, and our heart is moved; our brother, and this instrument as well.

01:21:20 SPEAKER_003: That you would even in a leisure act consider the heart of your brother to such a degree that you would consider your other selves' well-being to this extent moves us greatly.

01:21:31 SPEAKER_003: That's actually part of that, you know, thinking of others.

01:21:35 SPEAKER_003: Fifty-one percent more, our dearly beloved.

01:21:40 SPEAKER_003: We would say, in our humble opinion, that you should balance this love and action with love for the child within you that simply wishes to play to its fullest ability.

01:21:51 SPEAKER_003: The catalyst of your other self is for them to navigate;

01:21:55 SPEAKER_003: we perceive that as you play this game and engineer a situation that would prevent this catalytic response from happening to your companion—that this companion is being robbed of that experience that will put them more

01:22:11 SPEAKER_003: fully face-to-face with the vision of themselves,

01:22:15 SPEAKER_003: in the hope that over time they will see that there is imbalance and see that there is the robbing of their joy when they believe in this way at experiencing a loss.

01:22:27 SPEAKER_003: And the hope is, with time, if this catalyst is continually allowed to play out, they will begin to make a change.

01:22:35 SPEAKER_003: However, if this catalyst for them is deviated by your loving intentions to placate them, then they are not receiving the stimulus as was intended by the higher mind;

01:22:48 SPEAKER_003: and so we offer the idea to be of service to this other self.

01:22:55 SPEAKER_003: We offer the idea to be of most services to the self: Play to your heart's content.

01:23:03 SPEAKER_003: We encourage the making of the awesome deck and the complete obliteration of the other self in game time, in the spirit of true and honest play, to your own beloved inner child,

01:23:16 SPEAKER_003: in the being of your most authentic self, in the being of your most joyful, playful self.

01:23:24 SPEAKER_003: The vibrations will positively affect your companion even if it does not seem so.

01:23:31 SPEAKER_003: Many times, the outward reaction is not a reflection of the subconscious reactions or the metaphysical changes that are initiated by this collision with the higher vibration of play; and so we say: "Have fun,

01:23:47 SPEAKER_003: our brother."

01:23:48 SPEAKER_003: Your being is most service when you're in your integrity of play.

01:23:53 SPEAKER_003: Do not fear the catalysts; this other self must experience for their own well-being.

01:24:00 SPEAKER_003: All is well.

01:24:01 SPEAKER_003: We assure you.

01:24:04 SPEAKER_003: All right, Fred.

01:24:07 SPEAKER_003: Oh, I guess you are the questioner.

01:24:09 SPEAKER_003: I like that answer.

01:24:12 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, no, it was good.

01:24:13 SPEAKER_003: It was good.

01:24:13 SPEAKER_003: That's a great answer.

01:24:14 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, for sure.

01:24:19 SPEAKER_003: Yeah, but I mean, that's actually been a problem.

01:24:21 SPEAKER_015: And after I asked that question, other people were saying similar things; they've done similar things to let someone win or just not cause you know whatever,

01:24:35 SPEAKER_015: and to have it worded that way lets you see that you're actually robbing them of their own higher self-intended interaction.

01:24:46 SPEAKER_005: Okay.

01:24:46 SPEAKER_005: The question is though, dude, have you obliterated him yet?

01:24:55 SPEAKER_005: No, we don't play Magic anymore.

01:24:59 SPEAKER_005: I would actually—and I plan on doing this eventually—reinitiate Magic night.

01:25:09 SPEAKER_005: Cool.

01:25:09 SPEAKER_005: Well, I know.

01:25:11 SPEAKER_005: Maybe we can do a Magic night over the Zoom call.

01:25:14 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, man.

01:25:16 SPEAKER_005: Magic deck.

01:25:16 SPEAKER_005: He's like 30 years old but I play; I don't have one and I'm not planning to get one.

01:25:23 SPEAKER_002: But I would play Go or chess if you want.

01:25:28 SPEAKER_002: And in terms of at least Go and chess, I play—at least go in chess.

01:25:31 SPEAKER_002: I'll play chess, but you know yeah.

01:25:33 SPEAKER_002: But there's handicaps when you play with them.

01:25:38 SPEAKER_002: So like when I was teaching my kids how to play: Oh, Nanette, you want to say something?

01:25:44 SPEAKER_002: Well, talking about the authentic self, it seems very common.

01:25:51 SPEAKER_025: I certainly have experienced this from childhood where conditioned not to be our authentic self or deny that or not be able to explore who that is;

01:26:01 SPEAKER_025: and so very often there are love connections but they're based on the condition of not being your authentic self, and that is a dampening of your sixth chakra because that's where joy is.

01:26:16 SPEAKER_025: And so it's like programming to keep one from feeling the joy of being who they are created to be.

01:26:26 SPEAKER_025: So it pulls you down; then people are afraid to explore their authentic self and even figure out what that even means because there'll be social pressure,

01:26:36 SPEAKER_025: like from family or a spouse or in some way, to conform to their view of how love is supposed to look, and it's difficult.

01:26:51 SPEAKER_025: It's hard work to have the inability to interface harmoniously; happiness is an emotion but joy is like a state of being.

01:27:03 SPEAKER_025: And to have a shade put on that so you can be within the love of that person seems to be a pretty common kind of 3D challenge.

01:27:16 SPEAKER_025: It's hard work to love, I think what I'm saying.

01:27:23 SPEAKER_025: You're saying this is an Indigo ray blockage which is Intelligent Infinity blockage?

01:27:30 SPEAKER_025: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:32 SPEAKER_025: Well, that's just how that was taken; I wasn't thinking of it as an infinity blockage.

01:27:37 SPEAKER_025: I wasn't thinking in that way.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_025: I was just thinking like coming from the lower triad and compassion,

01:27:46 SPEAKER_025: then you conform or make yourself small because of compassion because you want to be with that person—say you have a brother and he's being abused by the father somehow physically—and you want to intervene but

01:28:05 SPEAKER_025: you can't because you're a child too.

01:28:09 SPEAKER_025: So that compassion kind of brings you into being him in a joyless state, denying yourself your natural joy because it's worth the sacrifice; so it kind of holds us into 3D, you might say.

01:28:28 SPEAKER_025: I'm just seeing that as you know kind of a dynamic condition of being here.

01:28:36 SPEAKER_025: Sorry if I went on too long about that.

01:28:39 SPEAKER_025: I haven't articulated that before so it probably sounded a little...

01:28:46 SPEAKER_003: Well when you're getting into the sixth chakra let's see—that's the gateway and that's the opening to Intelligent Infinity.

01:28:55 SPEAKER_003: So that's where joy is; that's where your joy is.

01:28:59 SPEAKER_025: Yeah, happiness is like—I mean you can have both everywhere—but the joy is kind of housed at that frequency while happiness is different.

01:29:09 SPEAKER_025: I mean happiness is a wonderful experience: there's when you're happy then you're not happy so there's that duality there.

01:29:17 SPEAKER_025: With joy it's—you don't have unjoy; you just don't experience it.

01:29:23 SPEAKER_025: So joy is like a state of being.

01:29:25 SPEAKER_025: Yeah, I see it as Indigo ray.

01:29:28 SPEAKER_025: Yeah absolutely.

01:29:29 SPEAKER_025: And happiness is a thing too.

01:29:31 SPEAKER_025: You can have happiness and joy but happiness is more temporal.

01:29:36 SPEAKER_025: And so you know when you're living in a world based on sensuality it's like happy not happy; desire no desire craving clinging that kind of thing.

01:29:49 SPEAKER_005: In the Buddhist teachings they say that happiness is like... there are lots of different things that create happiness.

01:30:00 SPEAKER_005: It's highly valued for good reason.

01:30:04 SPEAKER_005: Yeah, you've got joy being like what I said: that long-term state of being where you are happy consistently whereas that's more like your authentic self expressing itself when it can;

01:30:17 SPEAKER_025: when you can be whatever that is you feel joy just naturally.

01:30:22 SPEAKER_025: Exactly exactly.

01:30:23 SPEAKER_025: It's a constant state of happiness because you are—you're aligned, you're how you're supposed to be.

01:30:28 SPEAKER_005: But then you've got pleasure which also makes you happy but you have to chase it all the time;

01:30:34 SPEAKER_005: you have to pay for it or do something non-stop to get that pleasure whereas joy is something you can't pay for whatever.

01:30:44 SPEAKER_005: Joy is something you build over time and put work in to create that state of being whereas pleasure is fleeting silly yes yes.

01:30:54 SPEAKER_005: The happiness we have to chase all the time.

01:30:56 SPEAKER_025: You know yeah I mean pleasure's great; I'm not downplaying it but when you have pleasure there's going to be loss.

01:31:04 SPEAKER_025: It's all samsara and joy is kind of outside of that.

01:31:09 SPEAKER_025: And that's real: your higher self is there,

01:31:13 SPEAKER_025: the one that wants to express itself authentically in this plane so that's work—that's some of the work—but I think joy is more connected to just beingness than anything.

01:31:29 SPEAKER_025: Yeah you don't even have to work; it's just there always because joy comes from the infinite Creator.

01:31:38 SPEAKER_002: Yeah yeah oh that's a good point.

01:31:45 SPEAKER_002: I had a teaching on joy; I can quickly look at it.

01:31:49 SPEAKER_002: Oh yeah yeah I'm just gonna—it might take me a minute to find it: Joy versus pleasure really helps getting control over like want and need—you know I want stuff,

01:32:18 SPEAKER_005: want this want this rather than I need that or this would be useful you know what I'm saying?

01:32:24 SPEAKER_005: Like um because the things that you want desire whatever they're normally the pleasure things right then the things that you need things that keep you going the things that are going to help you in

01:32:38 SPEAKER_005: a very real sense.

01:32:39 SPEAKER_005: Very real things; those end up building your joy.

01:32:41 SPEAKER_005: You know yeah and aren't we trying to figure out what our real desire is?

01:32:49 SPEAKER_002: So this is a compilation of all of the paragraphs containing "joy is" crunching it down into this particular seed:

01:33:10 SPEAKER_002: Joy is a creative self-luminous force residing in our permanent identity as spirit that functions as the intrinsic default setting of creation.

01:33:22 SPEAKER_002: Yeah that's what I'm talking about; it acts as an unconditional expression of love transcending space-time conditions rather than being manufactured by external circumstances or resources.

01:33:34 SPEAKER_002: Right every experience becomes part of this vast tapestry when we allow energy to expand and intermingle instead of blocking innate spiritual flow.

01:33:49 SPEAKER_002: Cardinal training sentence: We find joy by turning again to the Creator within under all conditions dedicating ourselves to service with gratitude rather seeking vital energy from perishable things or illusory control over changing circumstances;

01:34:12 SPEAKER_002: I think seeking vital energy from perishable things is like coffee—I had to quit caffeine basically.

01:34:21 SPEAKER_002: We distinguish true joy and chocolate—we distinguish true joy from fleeting happiness because joy is an unconditional state of existence rooted in our nature whereas happiness depends on external comfort and shifting conditions.

01:34:41 SPEAKER_002: Understanding that separate identity pleasure has a break yeah pleasure yeah I guess yeah happiness and pleasure all those could be under there too.

01:34:52 SPEAKER_002: Understanding that separate identity requires controlling catalyst allows us to flow freely within one creative fountainhead instead of attempting to manage the world or fearing loss which reveals unity with all beings by relaxing vigilance against

01:35:08 SPEAKER_002: surface anxiety and allowing attention to rest in stillness we transform life patterns into awareness where conflict appears harmonious without needing escape for safety alone.

01:35:21 SPEAKER_002: Orthogonal features: joy functions generously radiating outward from self to others like light growing brighter when hearts open wider rather than reacting mechanically to the flow of history or mechanical marvels;

01:35:36 SPEAKER_002: this presupposes usefulness by serving as an undertone where giving receives far more attention than getting because sharing transforms perception towards unity and grace refusing definition by money or specific environmental conditions.

01:35:54 SPEAKER_002: So it's like contrasting contentedness and joy: When you're in joy you gain more joy from giving than receiving.

01:36:03 SPEAKER_002: Surprises and misunderstandings many assume joy requires complex philosophical lists special occasions enforced discipline or feelings of compassion.

01:36:12 SPEAKER_002: Yet true joy is a simple reality maintained regardless of difficulties.

01:36:16 SPEAKER_002: Since seeking it through control fails, while allowing expansion from within works without effort.

01:36:23 SPEAKER_002: That's why often, you know, meditation is one of the cleanest paths to experiencing joy.

01:36:30 SPEAKER_002: It's about allowing that expansion from within.

01:36:34 SPEAKER_002: We often believe spiritual knowledge demands serial instruction, but advanced civilizations understand simplicity as the key to unity.

01:36:42 SPEAKER_002: Whereas our expectations obscure that joy cannot be caught by grit or formula, masqueraded as substance in separate selves trying to command outcomes alone.

01:36:53 SPEAKER_002: So you know, like there's no magic pill, and there's no amount of power over others that gives you this joy, which comes from the infinite Creator.

01:37:06 SPEAKER_002: We enter affairs or activities.

01:37:08 SPEAKER_002: See, there we go.

01:37:08 SPEAKER_002: Meditation.

01:37:09 SPEAKER_002: We enter meditation, seeking upward penetration through shells of being, until reaching the final centre, connecting all that there is.

01:37:18 SPEAKER_002: Entering presence.

01:37:19 SPEAKER_002: There, no words need saying, because mirroring forgiveness allows subconscious echoes of comfort to take place actively, even when loneliness seems present initially.

01:37:30 SPEAKER_002: Before lightening planetary awareness together, I think that's a beautiful kind of summary of that joy meditation.

01:37:38 SPEAKER_002: You know, when you just... you know, it's this kind of forms of emptiness.

01:37:44 SPEAKER_002: We play lightly with appearances rather than tightening into anger or anxiety alone within ourselves by turning moment by moment toward the infinite One, giving thanks for each instant,

01:37:55 SPEAKER_002: while accepting life in all hues as earnest passion, completing full living experience wherever catalyst leads us.

01:38:03 SPEAKER_002: Next step forward, always onward into deeper service, work possible here, now, always, everywhere, inside unity, light, sound, silence, joy, one flow forever, more together, right here.

01:38:16 SPEAKER_002: All right.

01:38:19 SPEAKER_002: Um...

01:38:20 SPEAKER_002: All right.

01:38:21 SPEAKER_002: I guess you know this is pretty long.

01:38:23 SPEAKER_002: Okay.

01:38:25 SPEAKER_005: That's pretty though, dude.

01:38:26 SPEAKER_005: I like that.

01:38:26 SPEAKER_005: It's nice and poetic, and I agree to the old.

01:38:30 SPEAKER_005: Go ahead.

01:38:32 SPEAKER_005: Okay.

01:38:33 SPEAKER_005: I could—I could do one more section here, maybe.

01:38:36 SPEAKER_005: Okay.

01:38:37 SPEAKER_005: Because I want to—okay.

01:38:38 SPEAKER_005: Say something, Andrei?

01:38:39 SPEAKER_005: Go ahead, Bill.

01:38:40 SPEAKER_003: You talked about saying that it's better to give than receive, but in the Oneness, giving and receiving are the same thing, because the greatest thing, as we develop in our consciousness—the you know,

01:38:59 SPEAKER_003: higher density we go up, what we want to do most is going to serve.

01:39:04 SPEAKER_003: So there has to be somebody on the other side that would let us serve them.

01:39:11 SPEAKER_003: So giving that service—or being the one that is able to be served—becomes serving; becomes a great gift to the other who is serving.

01:39:22 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, that's how I like to see it too.

01:39:26 SPEAKER_002: Is accepting a gift by accepting a gift... am I being of service to the person giving?

01:39:32 SPEAKER_002: Yes, absolutely.

01:39:33 SPEAKER_002: And I find that makes it much easier to accept the gift.

01:39:37 SPEAKER_002: Yeah, yeah—because I see it as a service to them.

01:39:39 SPEAKER_002: This is a higher principle because when you're talking about giving and receiving at third density level, it's kind of...

01:39:45 SPEAKER_003: Third density—it's kind of a different thing because a lot of the time, when you're giving on the third density level, you're like giving your energy and real—you know—grit.

01:39:57 SPEAKER_003: Grit, hard stuff, you know?

01:40:03 SPEAKER_003: All right, thank you for that.

01:40:06 SPEAKER_002: When we base our seeking on perishable things or distort catalyst through physical senses, true joy bubbles up only after disciplining free will in choices freely made to serve love underlies all things.

01:40:19 SPEAKER_002: Beginning today rather than later, someday, possibly, eventually—maybe—as perception clears without distortion within beingness, which is an illusion outside as yet actualized inside,

01:40:33 SPEAKER_002: allowing light to grow much brighter for everyone involved along the path of creation known through shared heart now always together forevermore.

01:40:43 SPEAKER_002: That was hard to follow.

01:40:45 SPEAKER_002: Conversely, when we attempt to control catalyst ourselves and others acquiring power at an expense, joy does not radiate but instead third density frustrates intellect destroying safe places.

01:40:58 SPEAKER_002: So incarnation undertakes from heart leading ultimately toward deeper connection rather than resistance against novelty emerging around us now today everywhere simultaneously without beginning or duration interval measurement unit quantity?

01:41:14 SPEAKER_002: Okay okay applied universally across entire cosmos systems encompassing everything known unknown hidden revealed and manifest latent potential.

01:41:23 SPEAKER_002: Oh man I think there was an error in generating this but I think that what it's trying to say is that when you try to control things it doesn't lead to joy but it destroys

01:41:40 SPEAKER_002: safe places so it's better to have choices freely made and to serve in love to allow that joy to flow more freely.

01:41:56 SPEAKER_002: Yeah I think I probably have better versions of this sure I'll leave your passage if you want to continue this next week okay sure yeah yeah we might as well or oh my gosh much

01:42:17 SPEAKER_002: okay one minute summary it's yeah it's past nine Joy is a spiritual practice Joy is more than a passing feeling It is a creative force that arises when we remain connected with the Creator rather

01:42:33 SPEAKER_002: than depending on external conditions The dancing pearl is a useful image Joy cannot be forced or controlled;

01:42:39 SPEAKER_002: it appears through openness surrender curiosity and allowing life to move freely Joy also does not require the absence of sorrow We can feel grief difficulty or uncertainty while still remaining rooted in a deeper current

01:42:51 SPEAKER_002: of love And it's true joy grows when we loosen control remain open-hearted and stay connected with the Creator through whatever life brings Every moment can then become an opportunity for connection service and deeper awareness

01:43:04 SPEAKER_002: Let go Stay open Let joy move through you And I think that a key to it is kind of like gratitude in all things It's like even when you're feeling intense grief or something then

01:43:16 SPEAKER_002: it's like Wow Creator thank you for letting me have strong feelings Um it's profound Yeah grateful for being able to feel this kind of grief Yeah yeah or whatever it is you know whatever strong

01:43:33 SPEAKER_002: emotion maybe Right right It's a blessing All right So any closing remarks or questions before we close the meeting?

01:43:47 SPEAKER_002: All right So Anita I love you guys Yeah love you too guys Yeah How did you like this meeting Annette?

01:43:56 SPEAKER_025: It was very interesting I don't know what happened to Sotelo.

01:44:00 SPEAKER_025: So Tello because when I did the link it looks like it's supposed to be Danielle So Tello is that her name?

01:44:10 SPEAKER_025: So I was really surprised when I followed the link and found you all here Oh like what?

01:44:20 SPEAKER_025: I'm not sure how that happened I don't know Yeah it's in my Google Calendar that way Oh okay Okay so what do y'all call yourselves as a group Unity Love and Light Law of One

01:44:32 SPEAKER_025: Okay All right Thank you Thanks for having me Yeah Yeah Happy to have you too It was interesting Good night Okay So as we leave you we leave you in the infinite love and infinite

01:44:48 SPEAKER_002: light of the infinite Creator within you and all around you my friends Go forth therefore rejoicing in the infinite power and infinite peace Good night All right thanks