Andrii-zvorygin Spiritual Meeting Transcript — May 8, 2026

00:00:00 SPEAKER_752: Greetings in love and light of the One Infinite Creator.

00:00:03 SPEAKER_752: I'm Andrii Zvorygin, joined here today with Bill, Ryle, and Eric, and we'll be reading about healing and dreams and the spiritual relationship to disease in the Confederation contact and from March 14th,

00:00:25 SPEAKER_752: as well as discussing it.

00:00:28 SPEAKER_752: Okay.

00:00:29 SPEAKER_752: Cool.

00:00:40 SPEAKER_752: I'm writing the second edition of my Vital Strategies in Cancer book, and have patients in great need who come to see me with cancer.

00:00:44 SPEAKER_752: What insights can you share for me in terms of guiding those patients?

00:00:51 SPEAKER_752: What insights in terms of making the book a dynamic book that would attract the readers that need to find that information?

00:00:55 SPEAKER_752: I appreciate your thoughts, Bill.

00:00:56 SPEAKER_464: I'm going ahead.

00:01:00 SPEAKER_464: Yeah, I'll go.

00:01:00 SPEAKER_464: I am Q'uo.

00:01:03 SPEAKER_464: We appreciate your query, my brother.

00:01:10 SPEAKER_464: This is a question that deals with the disease that has become more and more prevalent within the third density illusion.

00:01:21 SPEAKER_464: The general gist of any disease is that if one has experienced the catalyst of some kind of difficulty, whether it is mind, body, or spirit,

00:01:33 SPEAKER_464: that if this has not been dealt with consciously in a conversation with the person, that the difficulty is experienced with, if in meditation that has not been balanced,

00:01:38 SPEAKER_464: then this will result in the experience of what you call cancer.

00:01:46 SPEAKER_464: That is, in general, what happens when any catalyst has not been done justice by working with it.

00:01:58 SPEAKER_464: It is given to the entity's body in a symbolic form, so that which has not been seen and used originally may gain the attention once again.

00:02:09 SPEAKER_464: The opportunity may be presented again to deal with whatever catalyst it was, whether it is anger, confusion, a lack of any thought concerning the problem.

00:02:23 SPEAKER_464: Then the condition will worsen, and then hopefully the entity experiencing whatever the sickness is, cancer, whatever part of the body, will then go to a doctor such as you, perhaps.

00:02:28 SPEAKER_464: Then they can see that there are more ways of dealing with diseases than with medicine,

00:02:42 SPEAKER_464: and perhaps you or anyone else that can provide the service can be a mirror to the one suffering the disease and can give advice that speaks to the soul of the one experiencing the disease

00:02:49 SPEAKER_464: by sharing their own knowledge of others who have had these diseases and how they dealt with them.

00:02:57 SPEAKER_464: The basic principle here is to be able to use that catalyst and not ignore it.

00:03:06 SPEAKER_464: To know that your body is a creature of your spirit, of your mind, and it will tell you in known certain terms by the disease you experience.

00:03:18 SPEAKER_464: So, our suggestion for you, as you write in your book, is to let people know how you have suggested to them how to deal with any particular disease.

00:03:31 SPEAKER_464: You have a most inspiring point of view that the usual medical community is unaware of, for they deal with the nuts and bolts, the practical thoughts.

00:03:35 SPEAKER_464: Sir, query.

00:03:38 SPEAKER_464: Thank you.

00:03:41 SPEAKER_464: So, what do you guys think of that?

00:03:44 SPEAKER_464: No real insights.

00:03:44 SPEAKER_464: Yeah, fair enough.

00:03:53 SPEAKER_307: I think most of the insights were in the first paragraph basically that it is the unprocessed catalyst that is being offered to and lack of balancing.

00:04:03 SPEAKER_307: Yes, yes.

00:04:04 SPEAKER_307: Q'uo describes disease as unresolved life catalysts taking symbolic form in the body, inviting the person to face, balance, and consciously work with what was previously ignored,

00:04:18 SPEAKER_307: while still allowing medical care to serve as part of the healing path.

00:04:28 SPEAKER_307: All right.

00:04:29 SPEAKER_464: So, well, it's really hard for people to understand that the body is a creation of the mind, and here they include the spirit as well.

00:04:39 SPEAKER_464: But you know, Ron, those guys they usually said the body's a creation of the mind.

00:04:46 SPEAKER_464: Oh yeah.

00:04:47 SPEAKER_464: Well, and then it's the spiritual imbalances that show up as disease in the body.

00:05:02 SPEAKER_463: Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:03 SPEAKER_463: So, where those?

00:05:04 SPEAKER_463: Okay, I have a query, Q'uo.

00:05:07 SPEAKER_463: This is concerning dreams, visions with possible prophetic meaning.

00:05:08 SPEAKER_463: My question is kind of two parts.

00:05:11 SPEAKER_463: First, is there a benefit to receiving such information?

00:05:13 SPEAKER_463: And the second part is, would you encourage someone to investigate this further, Bill?

00:05:20 SPEAKER_464: We are those of Q'uo, and we have received and appreciate this query, my sister.

00:05:26 SPEAKER_464: It is an experience for many on this planet that they receive messages in these prophetic ways, in these states of dreaming, and in other states of consciousness.

00:05:37 SPEAKER_464: In fact, it is the ability that is open to all who take the intentional practice of opening their heart and their mind's eye to that possibility.

00:05:47 SPEAKER_464: It is with intention we stress that this experience can be further crystallized, that the ability to hone in on these prophetic abilities, these messages, the intentional practice is the exercising of that muscle.

00:06:04 SPEAKER_464: The stating before the dream state, before the sleep state, that you wish to receive these messages, and the practice of making note once these messages are received.

00:06:18 SPEAKER_464: My sister, there is utility to these messages.

00:06:33 SPEAKER_464: However, the utility, the flavour of its importance, is something that is empowered by the seeker themselves.

00:06:46 SPEAKER_464: The dreamlike state can contain messages from higher self, the unconscious or subconscious self, or messages from outer self.

00:06:51 SPEAKER_464: It is what the seeker puts into these messages, what insight can be gleaned from these messages, that determines if it has utility.

00:06:57 SPEAKER_464: Take, for instance, a message of prophecy, if you will, the ability to see something in the future.

00:07:06 SPEAKER_464: Simply setting the intention of noting this prophecy instills within you a moment of a reminder, a memory.

00:07:15 SPEAKER_464: Then, when that prophecy takes place, it can act as an avenue for further refinement for larger seeing of the truth of the unity of your experience.

00:07:23 SPEAKER_464: That time truly has no function outside of your illusion, but it does help to catalyze the experience of your illusion,

00:07:32 SPEAKER_464: so that you see the experience on a linear scale rather than a coexistence of many moments simultaneously.

00:07:44 SPEAKER_464: And so, my sister, the importance of these is invested by your own intention, by what you get from these prophetic moments.

00:07:52 SPEAKER_464: We would say that seeing them as magical, seeing them as pure, and holding them with much love and light can further install within them a more refined and clear picture that you get from them.

00:08:00 SPEAKER_464: These prophecies, these moments of future memory, if you will, that are imbued with your own love and light,

00:08:07 SPEAKER_464: that speak of the love and light of the Creator that steer you away from feelings of fear or anxiety and perhaps the most beautiful expressions of this particular modality of self-communication,

00:08:23 SPEAKER_464: we would state that focusing in on these, noting their perfection,

00:08:26 SPEAKER_464: noting where they come to you in your present moment can be a powerful reminder of your truth and your reality that exist under the costumes of this illusion,

00:08:41 SPEAKER_464: so we stress again the importance and the ability to use these prophecies is ultimately decided by the seeker to understand them further to recognize your own relationship with them.

00:08:56 SPEAKER_464: One merely needs to sit in states of silence to review how these come to you, what feelings come about for you whenever you experience them,

00:09:01 SPEAKER_464: what inspiration is gleaned from whenever the prophecy or the expected outcome happens.

00:09:14 SPEAKER_464: What is the feeling that sings in your heart?

00:09:24 SPEAKER_464: What is the sensation in your soul that you walk away with?

00:09:29 SPEAKER_464: Is it one of love?

00:09:33 SPEAKER_464: Is it one of acceptance?

00:09:37 SPEAKER_464: Is it one of deeper curiosity?

00:09:38 SPEAKER_464: Noting what you feel and listening to your heart will help you determine how you walk with these incarnational guides.

00:09:39 SPEAKER_464: How you utilise them to be pieces of your journey, how they may be guideposts on your walk, how they may be kinks in the road,

00:09:40 SPEAKER_464: or even how they may be stars in the sky as you look around on your journey.

00:09:43 SPEAKER_464: My sister, they are such beautiful instances when they occur, much like the moments of deja vu or the moments of synchronicity.

00:09:52 SPEAKER_464: They all have purpose.

00:10:01 SPEAKER_464: They all are working in tandem with your own higher self and your own beingness to catalyze you in ways that spark your curiosity, that ignite your heart, that push your soul forward,

00:10:09 SPEAKER_464: that install within you a sense of direction, even though it may not be clear in that moment.

00:10:16 SPEAKER_464: We think it is very inspiring to learn that the people in this room and on this planet are turning more into these little glimpses outside of your time and its limiting fashion or space as

00:10:27 SPEAKER_464: you see it.

00:10:41 SPEAKER_464: These little peaks behind the curtain to a more unified, a more dynamic, an infinite possibility of reality.

00:10:49 SPEAKER_464: My sister, we would also say that you develop an ability to trust yourself in these experiences.

00:11:03 SPEAKER_464: Do they feel magic?

00:11:09 SPEAKER_464: Do they feel magical?

00:11:13 SPEAKER_464: Trust that magic.

00:11:23 SPEAKER_464: Do they feel inspiring?

00:11:25 SPEAKER_464: Follow that inspiration.

00:11:27 SPEAKER_464: And in moments when it is hard fought to find the magic or the inspiration, we stress that you have much grace for yourself.

00:11:29 SPEAKER_464: If the answers are not fully clear in that moment, have no fear, my friend.

00:11:32 SPEAKER_464: Your experience is always evolving and moving, and pieces are in constant flux, fading in and out, repositioning themselves with the ultimate and always present forward moment, movement, a forward movement.

00:11:34 SPEAKER_464: Yeah.

00:11:41 SPEAKER_464: While it may not make sense in that moment, it may be the light bulb that switches in your future.

00:11:48 SPEAKER_464: Know that this is what the dreams are working towards.

00:11:53 SPEAKER_464: That there is only a walk forward.

00:12:05 SPEAKER_464: The walk forward may have lateral, laterality, and these moments may inspire that lateral movement.

00:12:05 SPEAKER_464: But ultimately, you are still putting one foot in front of the other, being guided by those magical mysteries, with full faith and an open heart, and much patience for yourself.

00:12:11 SPEAKER_464: We feel as though we spoke to the first part of your question, and would ask if you would like to repeat the second part of your question,

00:12:15 SPEAKER_464: in hopes that we may speak to that as well.

00:12:21 SPEAKER_464: Okay.

00:12:29 SPEAKER_464: Well, I think we're gonna break down the very long first part.

00:12:46 SPEAKER_464: Yeah.

00:13:08 SPEAKER_463: First.

00:13:14 SPEAKER_463: Okay.

00:13:14 SPEAKER_463: So the question is: Is there a benefit to receiving such information from dreams, visions, and visions with possible prophetic meaning?

00:13:19 SPEAKER_463: So that's all it went into is the benefit, according to them, because they said they only answered the first part of the question.

00:13:21 SPEAKER_463: Yeah, yeah.

00:13:21 SPEAKER_463: So we got someone else join us, Fred.

00:13:28 SPEAKER_463: Hey, Fred.

00:13:39 SPEAKER_463: Hey, guys.

00:13:40 SPEAKER_463: So, probably eating or something.

00:13:43 SPEAKER_463: I'm doing pretty good.

00:13:44 SPEAKER_463: I'm driving right now, actually.

00:13:45 SPEAKER_463: Okay.

00:13:46 SPEAKER_463: Yeah.

00:13:50 SPEAKER_463: You just sounded busy.

00:13:51 SPEAKER_463: Prophetic ability is presented as universal, not elite.

00:13:51 SPEAKER_463: One of the most striking statements is Kuhl's claim that prophetic dreaming is an ability that is open to all.

00:13:54 SPEAKER_463: It is an ability that is open to all who take the intentional practice of opening their heart and mind's eye to that possibility.

00:13:56 SPEAKER_463: This reframes spiritual intuition away from spiritual hierarchy or special status.

00:14:00 SPEAKER_463: Kuhl describes these capacities almost like a muscle that strengthens through attention and practice rather than through superiority.

00:14:02 SPEAKER_463: This is important because many seekers either inflate these experiences into ego identity, or suppress them from fear of appearing irrational.

00:14:09 SPEAKER_463: Kuhl moves between those extremes.

00:14:19 SPEAKER_463: The tone is to remain open, remain grounded, remain curious, remain humble.

00:14:23 SPEAKER_463: The focus is not becoming psychic.

00:14:32 SPEAKER_463: The focus is becoming more conscious.

00:14:39 SPEAKER_463: Intention shapes the experience.

00:14:43 SPEAKER_463: Kuhl repeatedly emphasizes intentionality.

00:14:45 SPEAKER_463: The stating before the dream state, before the sleep state, that you wish to receive these messages, and that the practice of making note once these messages are received.

00:14:47 SPEAKER_463: Yes, sure.

00:14:51 SPEAKER_463: This resembles many contemplative traditions: prayer before sleep, dream incubation, journaling, meditation, symbolic reflection.

00:14:52 SPEAKER_463: Who suggests attention itself helps crystallize these experiences, and the interesting implication is that consciousness may behave less like a passive receiver and more like a participatory relationship.

00:14:58 SPEAKER_463: The seeker collaborates with the deeper mind, and this aligns with the Law of One emphasis on free will.

00:15:10 SPEAKER_463: Guidance is available, but conscious invitation matters.

00:15:10 SPEAKER_463: The meaning comes from relationship, not mere prediction.

00:15:18 SPEAKER_463: Kuhl does not treat prophecy as fortune-telling entertainment.

00:15:31 SPEAKER_463: Instead, the meaning depends on what the seeker does with the experience.

00:15:43 SPEAKER_463: The utility, the flavour of its importance, is something that is empowered by the seeker themselves.

00:15:45 SPEAKER_463: This is a profound distinction.

00:15:48 SPEAKER_463: A dream of synchronicity does not automatically carry wisdom merely because it feels unusual.

00:15:51 SPEAKER_463: The transformation happens through contemplation, emotional honesty, reflection, discernment, and spiritual orientation.

00:15:57 SPEAKER_463: Kuhl repeatedly redirects the seeker away from fear and toward love, curiosity, wonder, self-understanding.

00:16:07 SPEAKER_463: That helps protect against paranoia or obsessive interpretation.

00:16:10 SPEAKER_463: Time is presented as more fluid than it appears.

00:16:16 SPEAKER_463: One of the deeper metaphysical statements concerns time itself.

00:16:22 SPEAKER_463: Time truly has no function outside of your illusion.

00:16:28 SPEAKER_463: Koo suggests prophetic experience may occur because consciousness is occasionally perceiving beyond linear sequencing.

00:16:30 SPEAKER_463: Within the Law of One framework, all moments exist simultaneously in intelligent infinity, while incarnate consciousness experiences them sequentially for the purpose of learning.

00:16:33 SPEAKER_463: From that perspective, déjà vu, precognitive dreams, synchronicities, intuitive foreknowledge, may represent temporary glimpses beyond the normal constraints of incarnation.

00:16:37 SPEAKER_463: Whether one interprets this literally, psychologically, or symbolically, the practical outcome is similar.

00:16:42 SPEAKER_463: These moments can awaken a sense that reality is deeper, more interconnected, and more meaningful than ordinary materialism suggests.

00:16:49 SPEAKER_463: I'd like to add here that I think that time is an illusion.

00:16:57 SPEAKER_463: In terms of that, because it's a process of manifestation, and not necessarily as a time flowing kind of, you know, there's you can you go into the timeline of your dreams, so to speak,

00:17:04 SPEAKER_463: and your hopes and your fears, and that's why it's better to live in a state of gratitude than of fear.

00:17:09 SPEAKER_463: Kuo places major emphasis on emotional orientation.

00:17:17 SPEAKER_463: Those prophecies that steer you away from feelings of fear or anxiety are perhaps the most beautiful expressions of this particular modality of self-communication.

00:17:24 SPEAKER_463: Fear is a poor compass, guys.

00:17:41 SPEAKER_463: That's what I was just saying.

00:17:49 SPEAKER_463: Wow.

00:17:52 SPEAKER_463: All right.

00:18:02 SPEAKER_463: Anyways, this is an important safeguard.

00:18:03 SPEAKER_463: Many people who become interested in prophecy or synchronicity fall into doom fixation, spiritual fear spirals, apocalyptic obsession, ego inflation, and ego inflation, an obsessive decoding behaviour.

00:18:08 SPEAKER_463: Kuo instead suggests asking: Does this increase love?

00:18:08 SPEAKER_463: Does this deepen acceptance?

00:18:09 SPEAKER_463: And does this inspire curiosity?

00:18:14 SPEAKER_463: Does this help me walk forward with more openness?

00:18:25 SPEAKER_463: The emphasis is transformational rather than sensation.

00:18:27 SPEAKER_463: I would totally agree.

00:18:29 SPEAKER_463: You know, like this is.

00:18:31 SPEAKER_463: You know, I used to have problems with these things, and now I am totally way more just basically like in this state, and it is a life-changing experience, and is very good.

00:18:34 SPEAKER_463: Anyone else have a similar experience?

00:18:38 SPEAKER_463: Not in this realm.

00:18:40 SPEAKER_463: Okay, all right.

00:18:43 SPEAKER_463: Synchronicities and dreams are described as catalysts.

00:18:45 SPEAKER_463: Spark your curiosity, ignite your heart, push your soul forward.

00:19:01 SPEAKER_463: This language mirrors the Law of One concept of catalyst.

00:19:03 SPEAKER_463: Designed to stimulate growth, awareness, polarization, and seeking.

00:19:05 SPEAKER_463: In this framing, synchronicities are less about proving supernatural powers and more about awakening attention, disrupting unconsciousness, encouraging alignment, and deepening trust in the spiritual journey.

00:19:07 SPEAKER_463: The meaning is often experiential rather than intellectual.

00:19:08 SPEAKER_463: Kuo encourages trust, balanced with patience.

00:19:12 SPEAKER_463: Perhaps the healthiest section is where Kuo says, "Do they feel magical?

00:19:18 SPEAKER_463: Trust that man."

00:19:21 SPEAKER_463: Feel magical, trust that magic.

00:19:24 SPEAKER_463: They feel inspiring, follow that inspiration.

00:19:35 SPEAKER_463: But immediately balances this with, if the answers are not fully clear in that moment, have no fear, my friend.

00:19:39 SPEAKER_463: This avoids two extremes: rigid skepticism and ungrounded certainty.

00:19:41 SPEAKER_463: Who encourages openness without fanaticism, intuition without dogmatism, and wonder without losing discernment?

00:19:49 SPEAKER_463: That balance is rare in spiritual discussions.

00:19:51 SPEAKER_463: Practical application for seekers: before sleep, set a simple intention.

00:19:54 SPEAKER_752: If there is guidance helpful for my growth, I welcome it in love and clarity.

00:19:57 SPEAKER_463: Avoid demanding prediction or control.

00:20:09 SPEAKER_463: Keep a dream journal.

00:20:15 SPEAKER_755: Write down symbols, emotions, recurring themes, phrases, unusual impressions, synchronicities connected to waking life.

00:20:25 SPEAKER_755: Patterns often emerge over time.

00:20:27 SPEAKER_755: Focus on emotional resonance.

00:20:32 SPEAKER_755: Ask: What feelings remain afterwards?

00:20:40 SPEAKER_755: Does this increase love or fear?

00:20:42 SPEAKER_755: Does it invite healing, courage, forgiveness, or curiosity?

00:20:44 SPEAKER_755: Remain grounded.

00:20:50 SPEAKER_755: Kuo framing supports contemplation, meditation, self-awareness, inner listening.

00:20:53 SPEAKER_755: It does not encourage the abandonment of practical reality, or becoming consumed by symbolic interpretation.

00:20:54 SPEAKER_755: Treat synchronicities as invitations, rather than saying I have secret knowledge.

00:20:56 SPEAKER_755: The healthier orientation may be reality may be deeper and more interconnected than I realized.

00:20:58 SPEAKER_755: Closing reflection: Kuo ultimately presents prophetic dreams and synchronicities as gentle reminders that consciousness extends beyond ordinary material perception.

00:21:01 SPEAKER_755: The purpose is less about controlling the future and more about awakening the seeker to unity, mystery, participation in creation, and trust in the unfolding journey.

00:21:02 SPEAKER_755: They all have purpose.

00:21:09 SPEAKER_755: They all are working in tandem with your own higher self and your own beingness to catalyze you.

00:21:14 SPEAKER_464: All right.

00:21:16 SPEAKER_464: So yeah, I don't know if you guys have any comments on that, or you're good.

00:21:24 SPEAKER_464: Well, one thing cool I thought was that once you get information, they say you can take that information and you know take it in a meditation and try to refine it more and more.

00:21:33 SPEAKER_464: So that was kind of pretty cool.

00:21:49 SPEAKER_755: There's a refining process that you know people can take their you know predictions and prophecies even further.

00:21:51 SPEAKER_755: You know, fair.

00:21:56 SPEAKER_755: So I guess we'll continue here.

00:21:56 SPEAKER_755: I wish I had written my questions down.

00:22:02 SPEAKER_755: Now I'll see if I can clarify because I know I asked about the benefit,

00:22:13 SPEAKER_755: and then I guess my other part is that it's just that when you're given words through a vision unfamiliar to you, that you're curious about, and then you investigate,

00:22:16 SPEAKER_755: and then later maybe something happens that comes to fruition.

00:22:22 SPEAKER_755: I don't know.

00:22:24 SPEAKER_755: Is there an action I should take?

00:22:26 SPEAKER_464: Sorry, I'm thinking this is sounding confusing.

00:22:30 SPEAKER_464: Everything you said was inspirational and beautiful.

00:22:33 SPEAKER_464: I think you're probably already answered my question.

00:22:46 SPEAKER_464: Thinking cool.

00:22:52 SPEAKER_464: Well, we can go back up to the first, second part question, and all she said is, "Would you encourage someone to investigate this further?"

00:22:53 SPEAKER_464: Yes, fair enough.

00:22:56 SPEAKER_464: All right, see what Q'uo says.

00:23:01 SPEAKER_464: Where those are Q'uo, and we thank you for this additional sharing, and would like to attempt to speak a bit more to that, my sister.

00:23:04 SPEAKER_464: These moments when you receive a message, where it is unclear what it means and what you are to do with it, eventually coming to fruition, can be again seen with curiosity, or they can simply,

00:23:07 SPEAKER_464: or they can be simply held.

00:23:08 SPEAKER_464: They can be witnessed and observed, acting as sweet reminders when that moment does eventually come into play as a precious photograph of a connected journey, a purposeful journey, one that has direction,

00:23:18 SPEAKER_464: though you may not see it.

00:23:20 SPEAKER_464: We would humbly suggest that those instances where the word or the visualization does not make a whole lot of sense are confusing or are unfamiliar.

00:23:32 SPEAKER_464: That familiarity will come with your time.

00:23:35 SPEAKER_464: It will come with investigation, or may come with simple loving acceptance.

00:23:47 SPEAKER_464: That at this time I may not know, but that in time, as I am the Creator, knowing itself, it will become clear.

00:24:03 SPEAKER_464: Instances like these are gifts to the Creator as well, as you can imagine.

00:24:08 SPEAKER_464: The Creator is ever expanding and refining its own processes, further knowing itself, and through experience, reliving and appreciating the magic of the creation.

00:24:20 SPEAKER_464: And so, when in doubt or when in confusion, one can still ask.

00:24:26 SPEAKER_464: One can still have much gratitude for the experience, for it is a collaborative gift between Creator and co-creator, that working in tandem to further realize the totality, the infinite totality, that which is beyond.

00:24:42 SPEAKER_464: That this is the creation ever in motion.

00:24:45 SPEAKER_464: That by your loving acceptance or your investigation, that your mirror.

00:24:51 SPEAKER_464: That your mere experience of it is a deeper crystallization of the greater Capital E experience.

00:25:02 SPEAKER_464: We appreciate again this query, for it highlights the power of curiosity, the ability for the seeker to find deeper meaning through presence.

00:25:06 SPEAKER_464: And we would wish for all the blessings as a seeker who embarks upon such a journey that they might find that they may find what they seek.

00:25:15 SPEAKER_464: That what they see, that they may find peace and discover new parts of themselves, and we wish that for you as well, our sister.

00:25:22 SPEAKER_464: All right now.

00:25:50 SPEAKER_464: All right, channeling.

00:25:54 SPEAKER_464: Yeah, yeah.

00:26:01 SPEAKER_464: Fair enough.

00:26:07 SPEAKER_464: Finding peace, knowing yourself.

00:26:17 SPEAKER_464: If I got that, I don't know.

00:26:32 SPEAKER_463: Okay.

00:26:41 SPEAKER_463: Now four.

00:26:42 SPEAKER_463: Confusing dreams, unclear visions, and trusting the unfolding journey.

00:26:44 SPEAKER_463: This passage, Q'uo addresses the experience of receiving dreams, symbols, words, or visions whose meaning remains unclear, rather than demanding immediate interpretation.

00:26:45 SPEAKER_463: Q'uo encourages the seeker to hold these experiences gently, with curiosity, gratitude, patience, and loving acceptance.

00:26:45 SPEAKER_463: The deeper message is that spiritual insights often unfold gradually across time, and that even confusion itself may serve the Creator's process of self-discovery through the seeker.

00:26:50 SPEAKER_463: The emphasis is placed less on certainty and more on presence, trust, and participation in an unfolding journey of consciousness.

00:26:52 SPEAKER_463: Unclear experiences still have value.

00:26:53 SPEAKER_463: Q'uo immediately reframes confusion as something meaningful rather than as failure.

00:26:54 SPEAKER_463: Though, those moments when you receive a message where it is unclear what it means can be again seen with curiosity, or they can be simply held.

00:26:58 SPEAKER_463: This is psychologically and spiritually important.

00:27:08 SPEAKER_463: Many seekers assume if they cannot interpret a dream immediately, if a synchronicity feels incomplete, if a symbol remains mysterious, then they somehow missed the message.

00:27:15 SPEAKER_463: Q'uo instead suggests that some experiences are meant to ripen slowly.

00:27:26 SPEAKER_464: Right and slowly, the instruction is surprisingly gentle.

00:27:33 SPEAKER_464: Do not force.

00:27:35 SPEAKER_464: Do not panic.

00:27:44 SPEAKER_464: Do not obsess.

00:27:44 SPEAKER_755: Simply hold the experience.

00:27:55 SPEAKER_755: This approach preserves wonder without collapsing into anxiety.

00:27:57 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, it's like you know what.

00:28:09 SPEAKER_752: Go ahead.

00:28:13 SPEAKER_755: I would, I would say that covers up just any type of confusion you have.

00:28:17 SPEAKER_755: Not not only confusion.

00:28:18 SPEAKER_755: You're talking about confusion in your dream, but I, I think that would just cover confusion in general, in life, and in any other thing, really.

00:28:19 SPEAKER_755: Yes, yes.

00:28:20 SPEAKER_755: Good point.

00:28:32 SPEAKER_755: Meaning may arrive much later.

00:28:34 SPEAKER_755: Q'uo describes these experiences as sweet reminders, when the moment does eventually come into play, as a precious photograph of a connected journey.

00:28:36 SPEAKER_755: Commentary: The metaphor of a photograph is beautiful because photographs often gain emotional significance in retrospect.

00:28:41 SPEAKER_755: Likewise, a dream or strange intuition may appear meaningless at first, only later revealing itself as part of a larger pattern.

00:28:42 SPEAKER_755: This reflects the recurring law of One theme.

00:28:56 SPEAKER_755: Human consciousness experiences life sequentially, while the deeper self may already perceive broader patterns and relationships.

00:28:57 SPEAKER_755: The seeker often understands spiritually important experiences backward rather than forward.

00:28:58 SPEAKER_755: Loving acceptance is presented as spiritual discipline.

00:28:59 SPEAKER_755: One of the most balanced lines is, "At this time, I may not know, but that in time, as I am the Creator knowing itself, it will become clear."

00:29:01 SPEAKER_755: Commentary: This combines humility, patience, and sacred identity.

00:29:12 SPEAKER_755: Who avoids two unhealthy extremes—rigid skepticism, total certainty?

00:29:21 SPEAKER_755: The seeker is invited to admit uncertainty without abandoning trust.

00:29:30 SPEAKER_755: This is rare in both modern materialism and many spiritual movements.

00:29:32 SPEAKER_755: One side dismisses mystery too quickly; the other often overinterprets everything immediately.

00:29:41 SPEAKER_755: Q'uo instead encourages spiritual maturity: remain open, remain patient, remain grounded, allow understanding to emerge naturally.

00:29:45 SPEAKER_755: Curiosity is treated as sacred.

00:29:49 SPEAKER_755: It highlights the power of curiosity, the ability for the seeker to find deeper meaning through presence.

00:30:01 SPEAKER_755: Curiosity here is not idle fascination; it is a mode of consciousness.

00:30:07 SPEAKER_755: Fear contracts awareness; curiosity expands it.

00:30:09 SPEAKER_755: The seeker who approaches mystery with curiosity rather than fear becomes more capable of reflection, discernment, growth, symbolic understanding, and self-awareness.

00:30:20 SPEAKER_755: This also protects against dogmatism.

00:30:27 SPEAKER_755: Curiosity keeps the mind flexible, and alive.

00:30:35 SPEAKER_755: The Creator learns through the seeker.

00:30:36 SPEAKER_755: One of the deepest metaphysical ideas appears here: the Creator is ever expanding and refining its own processes further, knowing itself, and through your experience.

00:30:50 SPEAKER_755: Commentary within the Law of One framework, every experience contributes to the Creator's self-knowledge.

00:30:54 SPEAKER_755: That means your confusion matters, your seeking matters, your questioning matters, and your wonder matters.

00:31:05 SPEAKER_755: Even uncertainty participates in cosmic learning.

00:31:06 SPEAKER_755: This transforms spirituality from passive obedience into collaborative exploration.

00:31:11 SPEAKER_755: Q'uo even calls these moments a collaborative gift between Creator and co-creator.

00:31:13 SPEAKER_755: The seeker is not merely observing reality; the seeker participates in its unfolding.

00:31:23 SPEAKER_755: Presence matters more than immediate answers.

00:31:29 SPEAKER_755: A major hidden theme in this passage is presence.

00:31:34 SPEAKER_755: Q'uo repeatedly points the seeker back towards observation, witnessing, gratitude, loving acceptance, and quiet reflection.

00:31:36 SPEAKER_755: Modern culture trains people to solve, decode, optimize, explain immediately.

00:31:39 SPEAKER_755: But many spiritual experiences operate differently.

00:31:45 SPEAKER_755: Some truths reveal themselves gradually through lived experience, rather than intellectual analysis.

00:31:49 SPEAKER_755: Q'uo suggests that simply caring and experiencing consciously may itself have transformative value.

00:31:51 SPEAKER_755: Confusion does not mean misalignment.

00:31:56 SPEAKER_755: When in doubt or in confusion, one can still have much gratitude for the experience.

00:32:05 SPEAKER_755: This is emotionally stabilizing advice for the seeker.

00:32:11 SPEAKER_755: Many people interpret uncertainty as spiritual failure, lack of intuition, disconnection, or punishment.

00:32:15 SPEAKER_755: Q'uo instead frames confusion as part of the unfolding process itself.

00:32:22 SPEAKER_755: The seeker does not need to complete clarity in order to walk the path.

00:32:29 SPEAKER_755: Practical application for seekers: Do not force interpretation.

00:32:33 SPEAKER_755: If a dream or symbol feels unclear, write it down, reflect on it gently, allow time to work.

00:32:41 SPEAKER_755: Some meanings emerge months or years later.

00:32:46 SPEAKER_755: Practice loving uncertainty.

00:32:54 SPEAKER_755: Try replacing "I must know now" with "Perhaps understanding is still unfolding."

00:32:58 SPEAKER_755: This preserves openness without anxiety.

00:33:11 SPEAKER_464: Keep symbolic experiences grounded, which encourages curiosity, gratitude, reflection, and presence.

00:33:16 SPEAKER_464: This um does not support obsessive decoding or fear-based interpretation.

00:33:22 SPEAKER_464: Watch for emotional resonances.

00:33:25 SPEAKER_464: What feeling stayed with me?

00:33:26 SPEAKER_464: Did this deeper wonder—love, humility, curiosity, peace—and what part of myself became more awake afterwards?

00:33:32 SPEAKER_464: Trifled lighted, as connected.

00:33:35 SPEAKER_464: Seeker may begin noticing recurring symbols, repeating themes, timely synchronicities.

00:33:51 SPEAKER_464: Not every dream needs immediate interpretation.

00:34:01 SPEAKER_464: Remain open.

00:34:02 SPEAKER_755: Trust unfolding.

00:34:05 SPEAKER_755: Hold mystery gently, and continue.

00:34:12 SPEAKER_755: Gently, continue walking with curiosity and gratitude.

00:34:13 SPEAKER_755: You may experience it of your mere experience.

00:34:17 SPEAKER_755: Your mere experience of it is a deeper crystallization of the greater experience.

00:34:20 SPEAKER_755: Oh, right.

00:34:21 SPEAKER_755: Then, no. It's it's really important what they talked about with curiosity, because when you can stay curious, kind of like a child, then you're not going to be trapped in dogma,

00:34:23 SPEAKER_755: and then you know because dogma kind of leads to fear and and then the closing of the heart.

00:34:25 SPEAKER_755: So that openness, that curiosity, is always helping people move forward in seeking.

00:34:27 SPEAKER_755: Yeah.

00:34:31 SPEAKER_755: Yep.

00:34:37 SPEAKER_755: Um.

00:34:37 SPEAKER_755: Very true.

00:34:50 SPEAKER_755: Hello, fellow jidster.

00:35:02 SPEAKER_544: Um.

00:35:06 SPEAKER_544: So I'm not sure where where were we now?

00:35:07 SPEAKER_544: Okay, Gary, channeling.

00:35:10 SPEAKER_544: Where the?

00:35:11 SPEAKER_544: Yeah.

00:35:11 SPEAKER_544: Okay.

00:35:12 SPEAKER_544: Yes, I have a query.

00:35:12 SPEAKER_464: Thank you for being here in this moment.

00:35:16 SPEAKER_464: We call now.

00:35:18 SPEAKER_464: It is my greatest excitement to share our dialogue with you.

00:35:19 SPEAKER_464: My question pertains to the facilitation of vibration with an instrument, specifically what we call sound healing.

00:35:20 SPEAKER_464: Could we touch on individual mind, body, spirit basis, and also broaden our strokes to planetary alignment or what we call good work?

00:35:21 SPEAKER_464: This is a path of service to others that brings me much joy.

00:35:22 SPEAKER_464: Are there any specific time signatures, such as writing in a Fibonacci sequence that are more advantageous than, say, playing intuitively with one's attention focused on, say, cellular realignment.

00:35:25 SPEAKER_464: This this question kind of seems all over the place because he starts with sound healing.

00:35:26 SPEAKER_464: Yeah.

00:35:29 SPEAKER_464: Couple other more things.

00:35:36 SPEAKER_464: I guess we'll see what cool mix of it.

00:35:46 SPEAKER_464: Yeah.

00:35:53 SPEAKER_464: Right.

00:35:55 SPEAKER_464: See, yeah, Q'uo can bring it all back.

00:36:06 SPEAKER_464: We are those.

00:36:15 SPEAKER_464: Has a Q'uo.

00:36:17 SPEAKER_464: Oh, that's an interesting phrase.

00:36:20 SPEAKER_464: And we thank you for the gift of your heart invested into this question, and the energy with which you bring to your question and your desire to be of service, our brother.

00:36:24 SPEAKER_464: We must first offer an apology that while we may and will do our utmost to lend insight to your question,

00:36:24 SPEAKER_464: there is some specialized knowledge that we do not find within this instrument's personal experience and memory banks that makes communication on some of this point limited.

00:36:28 SPEAKER_464: We therefore have only the recourse of a more broader response to your question.

00:36:33 SPEAKER_464: You ask about different applications of sound healing and the service to others, including the intuitive plane, has you have described, and the other more specific frequency, asking what the impact and consequences,

00:36:35 SPEAKER_464: and ultimately help with these different modalities may be.

00:36:39 SPEAKER_464: We may counsel you, or brother, that the healer, whatever may be their particular modality, whether they are the allopathic or natural, naturopathic, or psychological, or music-making type.

00:36:43 SPEAKER_752: Or music making type of healer has a variety of tools in their tool belt, shall we say?

00:36:58 SPEAKER_464: Part of the great art of serving as catalyst—that is, serving as one who offers the healing catalyst—is then practicing the faculty of empathy and presence,

00:37:16 SPEAKER_464: such that one may intuit the requests for service from the other self or the others, and respond accordingly.

00:37:22 SPEAKER_464: One may, through the practice, through their practice of healing or of simply making music that inspires and brings joy and activates the soul, through this practice of experimentation and discipline,

00:37:31 SPEAKER_464: learn which modalities tend to have which effects.

00:37:44 SPEAKER_464: Which.

00:37:50 SPEAKER_464: We pause to deepen this contact momentarily.

00:38:01 SPEAKER_464: To study and pay attention and discover how others' selves respond to your art and your service, we may say that both of those methods that you have described do have applicability and service,

00:38:08 SPEAKER_464: applicability and service, each in their own way.

00:38:18 SPEAKER_464: It is a matter of your discernment, our brother.

00:38:28 SPEAKER_464: That of the intuitive plane may be more aligned to the free-flowing energies of the moment.

00:38:41 SPEAKER_464: This method opens you a pathway to step outside of the linear bounds of time and to become a portal through which the creator can speak through the music in your plane and your seeming spontaneous

00:38:44 SPEAKER_464: selection of notes and chords and progressions and time signatures and melodies and so forth.

00:38:45 SPEAKER_464: Whether the other methodology you mention may be that which is selected for its purpose in opening the other self or open or other selves to subtle energies and experiences within themselves,

00:38:49 SPEAKER_464: to perhaps help to restore alignment where there has been some misalignment between the mind or the body or the spirit complex, or between the mind-body-spirit complex and the universe at large.

00:39:05 SPEAKER_464: What is most important, our friend, is that is the love that you allow to flow freely through your own heart into your, your plane, into your act of service, such that whatever the chosen modality,

00:39:10 SPEAKER_464: intuitive or otherwise, it becomes a vehicle for the love that you have for life, for others, for beauty and truth.

00:39:17 SPEAKER_464: It is that quality of love in your beingness itself that becomes a transmission to help light the way for others, to help remind them of their own innate healing capacities, or their own innate power,

00:39:32 SPEAKER_464: or their own inherent freedom from the struggles which seem to bind them, music is a very powerful way to give voice to this love that encompasses all things.

00:39:48 SPEAKER_464: Music and sound generally, for the being has rational, logical, analytical, and language-based faculties and modes, and this in the integrated in the integrated being, is woven into the larger whole.

00:40:01 SPEAKER_464: But the being expands far beyond the limitations of the rational mind and the logic-bound mind.

00:40:16 SPEAKER_464: And music and sound, on a very primal level, may speak to these other and deeper and wider aspects of beingness.

00:40:41 SPEAKER_464: Alrighty then.

00:41:00 SPEAKER_464: All righty then.

00:41:12 SPEAKER_755: So, what do you think the cool answer that?

00:41:24 SPEAKER_755: Well, it was kind of a difficult question to understand, and and kind of basically whatever way the guy goes about healing, you know, we described all the various methods and ways he can do it.

00:41:36 SPEAKER_755: Hey, you know, do it with love.

00:41:49 SPEAKER_755: Mhm, mhm.

00:41:55 SPEAKER_755: Yes, best frequencies and time signatures.

00:42:04 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, I think because that's kind of that's going into.

00:42:05 SPEAKER_755: It's like everything is the one infinite creator.

00:42:06 SPEAKER_755: Right, right.

00:42:11 SPEAKER_755: Cool begins with humility.

00:42:28 SPEAKER_755: Cool openly acknowledges limits of channels available knowledge.

00:42:34 SPEAKER_755: Oh yeah, because they're they're probably they don't have a musical background.

00:42:35 SPEAKER_755: Okay, healing has many tools.

00:42:37 SPEAKER_755: The healer, whether they are allopathic or naturopathic, psychological, or music making, has a variety of tools in their belt.

00:42:42 SPEAKER_464: Um, yes.

00:42:44 SPEAKER_464: Okay, part of the great art of serving as a catalyst is in practicing the faculty of empathy and presence.

00:42:45 SPEAKER_464: Amen.

00:42:47 SPEAKER_464: This is the heart of the passage.

00:42:50 SPEAKER_464: Q'uo suggests the healer serves best by listening deeply.

00:42:55 SPEAKER_755: The question is not nearly merely what frequently what frequency should I use.

00:42:58 SPEAKER_755: What is being asked for here?

00:43:05 SPEAKER_755: What does this person need?

00:43:05 SPEAKER_755: What does this moment invite?

00:43:16 SPEAKER_755: What form of love wants to move through this service?

00:43:17 SPEAKER_464: In this view, healing begins before the first note is played.

00:43:19 SPEAKER_464: You know what I find interesting that in this answer and in the answer above, Q'uo actually is talking about presence.

00:43:23 SPEAKER_464: You know we. we don't get a lot of presence in with the answers all the time, and it it seems to be coming in a lot in this session.

00:43:26 SPEAKER_464: The idea of presence, yeah, yeah, it's a powerful thing.

00:43:27 SPEAKER_464: Presence and listening, and just having that open heart.

00:43:31 SPEAKER_464: Well, some some some people say the present moment and being present is the only thing that's going on.

00:43:34 SPEAKER_464: Well, that's true.

00:43:41 SPEAKER_464: That's true.

00:43:48 SPEAKER_755: And how you, if you like, if you're able to still your mind enough to actually hear who you're talking to and what they're saying, you know, that is such a great service to them.

00:43:57 SPEAKER_755: Oh yeah, yeah.

00:44:09 SPEAKER_755: Opening your heart and love, and and just listening to them with love.

00:44:13 SPEAKER_755: You know, just being present, kind of, kind of puts you in contact with the the creator in the present moment, because the creator is always there.

00:44:16 SPEAKER_755: But a lot of times we're, you know, thinking about the past, thinking about the future, worrying about this and that, and that we're not present just in that moment.

00:44:25 SPEAKER_755: In that moment, you can say that's that's all there is.

00:44:26 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, that moment contains all.

00:44:30 SPEAKER_755: Oh, hi Ashley.

00:44:47 SPEAKER_755: How are you doing?

00:44:49 SPEAKER_755: She's made it.

00:44:54 SPEAKER_755: Hey guys, how are you?

00:45:05 SPEAKER_755: Good, good.

00:45:15 SPEAKER_755: Did you happen to have any reflections on what we were reading?

00:45:18 SPEAKER_755: I'm not at the moment.

00:45:19 SPEAKER_755: Okay.

00:45:21 SPEAKER_755: All right.

00:45:23 SPEAKER_755: Cool.

00:45:24 SPEAKER_755: Just just wanted to make sure you were felt loved and involved and listened to.

00:45:26 SPEAKER_755: Thank you.

00:45:32 SPEAKER_755: I do.

00:45:34 SPEAKER_755: Okay.

00:45:34 SPEAKER_755: Great.

00:45:35 SPEAKER_755: Awesome.

00:45:35 SPEAKER_755: And how about you?

00:45:40 SPEAKER_755: Do you also feel that we listen to and hear you and love you?

00:45:42 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, yeah.

00:45:43 SPEAKER_755: Well, like I was telling one of my guests yesterday, that you know we have to realize that each of us is the Christ, and that the whole of the creation sings for you,

00:45:44 SPEAKER_755: and that a thousand angels wait at your beck and call.

00:45:45 SPEAKER_755: You know.

00:45:45 SPEAKER_755: Oh yeah.

00:45:47 SPEAKER_755: I. Now you speak in my language.

00:45:54 SPEAKER_755: Yeah.

00:45:55 SPEAKER_755: Intuitive playing has its own power.

00:46:11 SPEAKER_755: Kula describes intuitive music as a line to the free-flowing energies of the moment, and says it can allow the musician to become a portal through which the creator can speak through the music.

00:46:16 SPEAKER_755: Commentary: It's a beautiful description of inspired service.

00:46:16 SPEAKER_755: Intuitive playing is presented as a way of surrendering control, stepping beyond rigid structure, and allowing the present moment to shape the offering.

00:46:18 SPEAKER_755: And I think that it's not just with music, but even like kind of like living a channeled life of you know what does this person need to hear, you know,

00:46:21 SPEAKER_755: or like for their spiritual growth, you know, and and letting that inspiration come to you and speaking it.

00:46:21 SPEAKER_755: This does not mean technique has no value.

00:46:23 SPEAKER_755: Rather, technique becomes the vessel, while love and presence.

00:46:37 SPEAKER_755: Our love and presence become the living water poured through it.

00:46:41 SPEAKER_755: It's just like you have to know the language and how to speak it, and what words mean, and various concepts in order to be a good channel or instrument.

00:46:49 SPEAKER_755: Structured frequencies also have a place.

00:47:02 SPEAKER_755: Kuhl also honours more deliberate methods.

00:47:11 SPEAKER_755: The other methodologies may be that which is selected.

00:47:15 SPEAKER_755: The purpose is opening the other self or other selves, subtle energies.

00:47:18 SPEAKER_755: This gives room for intentional composition, specific frequencies, patterned rhythm, and carefully chosen musical structures.

00:47:23 SPEAKER_755: The distinction is practical.

00:47:37 SPEAKER_755: Intuitive playing responds to the living moment.

00:47:39 SPEAKER_755: Structured sound may serve specific energies and tension.

00:47:43 SPEAKER_755: Both can serve.

00:47:46 SPEAKER_755: The question is whether one fits the person, the group, and the purpose.

00:47:51 SPEAKER_755: Love is the actual healing carrier.

00:47:56 SPEAKER_755: What is most important is the love that you allow to flow freely, through your own heart, into your plane.

00:48:00 SPEAKER_755: This shifts the centre from mechanics to beings.

00:48:04 SPEAKER_755: Who does not say sound heals merely because of the personal frequency, the perfect frequency, the Fibonacci timing, or advanced technique?

00:48:07 SPEAKER_755: The vehicle may differ, but the healing current is love.

00:48:09 SPEAKER_755: Music becomes healing when it carries love for life, love for others, love for beauty, love for truth.

00:48:13 SPEAKER_755: Without that, even technically impressive music may remain spiritually thin.

00:48:15 SPEAKER_755: The healer's beingness is part of the offering.

00:48:27 SPEAKER_755: It is the quality of love and your beingness itself that becomes the transmission.

00:48:31 SPEAKER_755: This is a major point for all service.

00:48:37 SPEAKER_755: The healer is not merely delivering a product or intervention.

00:48:40 SPEAKER_755: Their consciousness, presence, humility, purity of intention, and openheartedness all become part of what is transmitted.

00:48:48 SPEAKER_755: This means selfwork matters.

00:48:54 SPEAKER_755: A musician who cultivates peace, compassion, patience, and reverence may bring those qualities into the field even before any sound begins.

00:48:58 SPEAKER_755: Music speaks beyond the rational mind.

00:49:02 SPEAKER_755: Hugo closes with a strong explanation of why music and sound matter.

00:49:06 SPEAKER_755: Music and sound, on a very primal level, may speak to those other and deeper and wider aspects of beingness.

00:49:09 SPEAKER_755: Commentary: Language works through concepts.

00:49:16 SPEAKER_755: Music can bypass concepts.

00:49:17 SPEAKER_755: Sound can reach memory, emotion, body, intuition, grief, longing, awe, prayer, unity.

00:49:25 SPEAKER_755: This is why music is so powerful in worship, ceremony, grief, celebration, meditation, healing.

00:49:29 SPEAKER_755: It touches the whole being.

00:49:36 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, I would say also this is true of story.

00:49:44 SPEAKER_755: You know, because story touches so much, in not necessarily intellectual way.

00:49:45 SPEAKER_755: But yeah, music is is amazing, as well.

00:49:47 SPEAKER_755: Practical applications for seekers, for musicians and sound healers, and my centered and my serving or performing.

00:49:50 SPEAKER_755: What is this person or group actually asking for, and what does the quality of love wants to move through this music?

00:50:05 SPEAKER_755: A good practice may combine prepared forms, intentional rhythm, repeated motifs, silence, intuitive response, and emotional listening.

00:50:08 SPEAKER_755: Let structures support the moment rather than dominate it.

00:50:11 SPEAKER_755: Watch how people respond.

00:50:16 SPEAKER_755: Study and pay attention, and discover how other selves respond to your art and your service.

00:50:20 SPEAKER_755: This means learning through real service what calms, what opens, what overwhelms, what brings joy, and what helps people soften.

00:50:27 SPEAKER_755: What helps people remember their own light.

00:50:35 SPEAKER_755: Let love be the standard.

00:50:46 SPEAKER_755: Instead of asking only, "Is this technically correct?"

00:50:50 SPEAKER_755: ask, "Does this carry love?

00:50:53 SPEAKER_755: Does this bring peace?

00:51:04 SPEAKER_464: Does this honour free will?

00:51:12 SPEAKER_464: Does this help the other person remember their own holiness?"

00:51:17 SPEAKER_464: Closing reflection: Cool answers places love above technique, which still honouring technique as a useful vessel.

00:51:18 SPEAKER_464: Sound healing is not reduced to frequencies.

00:51:21 SPEAKER_464: Music becomes sacred when the player becomes transparent to love.

00:51:23 SPEAKER_464: Whatever the chosen modality, intuitive or otherwise, it becomes a vehicle for the love that you have for life, for others, the beauty and truth.

00:51:23 SPEAKER_464: All right.

00:51:28 SPEAKER_464: So, any more comments?

00:51:33 SPEAKER_464: You were talking about storytelling for a little bit.

00:51:36 SPEAKER_464: Yeah, I was talking about story for a bit, and the idea there is that it transports a person in.

00:51:43 SPEAKER_464: Like, there's a lot of things that you can teach people through story that can be difficult to explain to them.

00:51:46 SPEAKER_464: If say like Aesop's fables, you know Aesop's fables.

00:51:49 SPEAKER_464: Well, one of the greatest.

00:52:02 SPEAKER_464: I was going to say one of the greatest effects is having stories that are sung, stories and music.

00:52:04 SPEAKER_464: That's that that is a huge teaching kind of tool.

00:52:05 SPEAKER_464: A lot of people gravitate to that.

00:52:08 SPEAKER_464: Stories and music—that's cool.

00:52:18 SPEAKER_464: Yeah, yeah.

00:52:25 SPEAKER_464: I should investigate that some.

00:52:28 SPEAKER_464: I could make some story music.

00:52:30 SPEAKER_464: That shouldn't be too hard.

00:52:41 SPEAKER_464: Well, some of the some of the greatest bands—that's their appeal—is they do storytelling through music.

00:52:45 SPEAKER_464: Is there a good example?

00:52:50 SPEAKER_464: Yeah, I have a very good example.

00:52:51 SPEAKER_752: Go ahead, Fred.

00:52:52 SPEAKER_464: Unless Bill, Bill, share yours first.

00:52:55 SPEAKER_464: I was just going to say, The Grateful Dead.

00:52:58 SPEAKER_464: Oh yeah, pretty yeah.

00:52:59 SPEAKER_464: Neil Young, he wrote three songs in a row, and this actually ties into what you were saying about dreams and everything else, and and interpreting things.

00:53:02 SPEAKER_464: He wrote, I think it was nineteen sixty-seven or sixty-eight when.

00:53:07 SPEAKER_464: Seven or sixty-eight when he wrote these songs.

00:53:10 SPEAKER_464: What happened was he got injured, and he uh was laid up in bed.

00:53:10 SPEAKER_464: And then at at the same time he got very sick.

00:53:11 SPEAKER_464: He got like the flu or something, and he ended up with like one hundred and three degree fevers.

00:53:12 SPEAKER_464: And he was in bed for like a week.

00:53:18 SPEAKER_464: And while he was in bed, he wrote three songs.

00:53:20 SPEAKER_464: He wrote "Cowgirl in the Sand," "Cinnamon Girl," and "Down by the River," and I think that's the order that they were written in.

00:53:35 SPEAKER_755: But all three of those songs together are one big story.

00:53:41 SPEAKER_755: Each song is a story in and of itself, but all three together make a big story.

00:53:46 SPEAKER_755: Cool.

00:53:52 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, I've seen Neil Young a couple times in concert.

00:54:00 SPEAKER_755: I'm a little lucky dog.

00:54:14 SPEAKER_755: Neil Young, cow, what?

00:54:17 SPEAKER_755: In concert, cowgirl on the sand, cowgirl on the cinnamon girl.

00:54:21 SPEAKER_755: Yep, cinnamon girl, and down by the river, which is my favorite Neil Young song of all time.

00:54:21 SPEAKER_755: That's where he goes down by the river.

00:54:31 SPEAKER_755: I shot my baby.

00:54:39 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, well, that's terrible.

00:54:52 SPEAKER_755: Well, it's part of the story.

00:54:52 SPEAKER_755: Okay, well, that sounds like a terrible song.

00:54:56 SPEAKER_755: But anyway, no, it's it's a you know it's a song of you know desperation, grief, you know, bad choice.

00:54:57 SPEAKER_755: You know, it's it's like part of the human experience.

00:54:58 SPEAKER_755: Oh yeah, yeah.

00:55:02 SPEAKER_755: Down by the river, a murder ballad, but Neil later implied it was symbolic and psychological more than autobiographical.

00:55:09 SPEAKER_755: Okay, cowgirl in the sand is more mysterious and dreamlike.

00:55:13 SPEAKER_755: Fragmented or surreal lyrics.

00:55:14 SPEAKER_755: Why these songs matter together?

00:55:16 SPEAKER_755: It's a fever dream imagery.

00:55:20 SPEAKER_755: While he was exactly having a fever dream.

00:55:22 SPEAKER_755: Um.

00:55:31 SPEAKER_755: Rough, vulnerable, repetitive.

00:55:34 SPEAKER_755: Okay.

00:55:35 SPEAKER_755: Cool.

00:55:42 SPEAKER_755: Hey, Ryle.

00:55:47 SPEAKER_752: Welcome back.

00:55:49 SPEAKER_755: Hey.

00:55:52 SPEAKER_755: Sorry about that.

00:55:54 SPEAKER_755: Yeah.

00:55:57 SPEAKER_755: Not a service.

00:55:58 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, intent.

00:55:58 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, yeah.

00:55:58 SPEAKER_755: Oh, it looks like we finished the session, guys.

00:55:59 SPEAKER_755: March fourteen.

00:56:00 SPEAKER_755: It was a brief.

00:56:01 SPEAKER_755: Are you serious?

00:56:01 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, yeah.

00:56:02 SPEAKER_755: Can you imagine us us finishing a session in just one talk?

00:56:02 SPEAKER_755: That's it's like unheard of.

00:56:04 SPEAKER_755: But I guess it must have been like super short.

00:56:05 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, yeah.

00:56:05 SPEAKER_755: Oh, there's part two.

00:56:08 SPEAKER_755: March seventeen.

00:56:09 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, it says fifteen to eighteen minute read time.

00:56:10 SPEAKER_755: To do okay, I have some queries that are also somewhat complex, so thank you for bearing with me.

00:56:10 SPEAKER_755: The first one is inspired by something that our friends of Halos said in our last session, so I'll read you the quote.

00:56:12 SPEAKER_755: Halo said, "Faith starts out as positive belief, but becomes a surety, a knowing beyond intellectual knowledge, a transcendence of the rational and the world system, whereby the entity has leapt into the air, into nothing,

00:56:15 SPEAKER_755: and rests upon not a structure of logical thought or scientific theory, but in that eternity which is forever beyond space and time, which has before, which was before space and time,

00:56:17 SPEAKER_755: and which is one's true nature."

00:56:20 SPEAKER_755: Faith is the bridge to this reality, your deeper nature, and through this bridge, your portal or doorway.

00:56:21 SPEAKER_755: One who is upon the positive path is more centered in their own power.

00:56:22 SPEAKER_755: So, my question is: when reckoning with real-world situations, attempting to navigate our world with this discernment and care, it can seem foolish to let go of structure, of logic, thought, as Latwii called it.

00:56:25 SPEAKER_755: I don't believe the Confederation would necessarily.

00:56:28 SPEAKER_755: I believe the Confederation would necessarily encourage seekers to abandon all consideration of the rational, but I also note that you seem to emphasize faith is absolutely central and outside the bounds of logical thought,

00:56:35 SPEAKER_464: while logical thought is not upheld as equally central and important for the seeker.

00:56:49 SPEAKER_464: It would be easy to interpret this as an appeal to release logic and rationality in favour of faith.

00:57:06 SPEAKER_464: So, can you please elaborate on this tension and help me understand the proper place of logic and rational thought in relationship to faith?

00:57:24 SPEAKER_463: Hey, you know what, Andre?

00:57:26 SPEAKER_463: What?

00:57:30 SPEAKER_463: There are two March seventeenth channelings.

00:57:34 SPEAKER_463: Was this the wrong one?

00:57:44 SPEAKER_463: Yeah, you skipped over the one that was right after the March fourteenth one.

00:57:48 SPEAKER_463: Oh, I see.

00:58:02 SPEAKER_463: I see.

00:58:06 SPEAKER_463: Okay, sorry.

00:58:13 SPEAKER_463: Okay, part one.

00:58:29 SPEAKER_463: Sorry.

00:58:34 SPEAKER_464: No, it's okay.

00:58:36 SPEAKER_464: Okay.

00:58:36 SPEAKER_464: Who?

00:58:39 SPEAKER_464: So honoured to witness.

00:58:40 SPEAKER_464: Okay, okay, it's good to be with you for a bit.

00:58:46 SPEAKER_464: Okay, these are guardrails to protect against the potential of self-inflicted planetary annihilation.

00:58:49 SPEAKER_464: The difficulties of integrating the four density energies of love and acceptance.

00:58:49 SPEAKER_464: All right.

00:58:52 SPEAKER_464: So here, I'll get to the question.

00:58:52 SPEAKER_464: I find myself of two minds.

00:58:53 SPEAKER_464: Yeah.

00:58:54 SPEAKER_464: Oh, whatever.

00:58:55 SPEAKER_464: Yes.

00:58:56 SPEAKER_464: Thank you.

00:59:01 SPEAKER_464: Cool.

00:59:07 SPEAKER_464: Yes, thank you, Q'uo.

00:59:14 SPEAKER_464: It is good to be with you.

00:59:15 SPEAKER_464: I think these might be my last of my world-focused questions for a bit.

00:59:16 SPEAKER_464: I find myself of two minds at times.

00:59:18 SPEAKER_464: My spiritual heart senses the movement toward the fourth density of love and understanding, and I see so much evidence of the global awakening increasing as it has been for decades.

00:59:23 SPEAKER_464: But my more news-oriented, rational mind reads the headlines and sees the planet in peril, pre-ecological degradation, proliferation of nuclear weapons,

00:59:23 SPEAKER_464: or return to the political philosophy of "might makes right," the increasing gap in wealth and quality, and so on.

00:59:23 SPEAKER_464: Given the metaphysical situation of a planet that has entered a fourth density time-space vibration and crossed the threshold toward the birth of a positively oriented fourth density experience,

00:59:26 SPEAKER_464: are there guardrails in place to protect against the potential for self-inflicted planetary annihilation?

00:59:26 SPEAKER_464: Bill.

00:59:27 SPEAKER_464: Okay.

00:59:28 SPEAKER_464: Unless somebody else wants your wheelhouse, yeah.

00:59:32 SPEAKER_464: I am Q'uo, and aware of the query, my brother.

00:59:38 SPEAKER_464: And we appreciate the heart from which this query comes, for we understand and relate to the desire to see your planet graduate harmoniously into the fourth density of love and understanding.

00:59:42 SPEAKER_464: And we too are what you might call concerned with the increased energies of regression that are being manifest upon your planet as these fourth density energies become ever more present and push you with ever

00:59:56 SPEAKER_464: more pressure upon the individual and collective psyches of your planet and population.

01:00:09 SPEAKER_464: We empathize with the dual nature of the query as you have presented it.

01:00:18 SPEAKER_464: That which recognizes the truth contained within the light of fourth density that is now present within your planet and upon your planet,

01:00:31 SPEAKER_464: we understand that your heart senses this energy and influences your perception and allows you to witness what you have described as a certain spiritual awakening upon your planet.

01:00:37 SPEAKER_464: We would encourage any seeker who feels the tension of these two poles, the growing spiritual evolution of your planet, alongside the seeming regression of your planet, to foster the perception of that growing spiritual awareness,

01:00:44 SPEAKER_464: to treasure these moments in which you recognize with the eyes of another, within the laughter of a child, within the growing joy of community,

01:00:47 SPEAKER_464: within the coming together to celebrate or to mourn or to deal with whatever particular situation has come upon your community, and to cherish these moments,

01:00:51 SPEAKER_464: to bring them into your meditation and allow them to inform the open heart that is being cultivated within you and within your social memory complex.

01:01:06 SPEAKER_464: We make the suggestion because, in our perception, particularly upon your planet, there is the tendency to allow the perceptions of the seemingly negative, of the difficult, of the suffering,

01:01:23 SPEAKER_464: and the violence to overwhelm the senses.

01:01:34 SPEAKER_464: It can be difficult within the veil of third density to hold on to the heart of love, as the overpowering chaos and difficulty become more and more present within your awareness.

01:01:42 SPEAKER_464: Thanks to the various technologies and lines of communications that you experience, this fostering of this perception is one way in which we may encourage you to form guardrails, as you put it.

01:01:51 SPEAKER_464: To intentionally water those seeds within yourself and within others, both by outer encouragement.

01:02:03 SPEAKER_752: Go ahead.

01:02:19 SPEAKER_464: I thought you had stomped off somewhere.

01:02:30 SPEAKER_464: No, no. I opened the door for my dog.

01:02:43 SPEAKER_464: Oh, okay.

01:02:55 SPEAKER_464: Both my outer encouragement, yeah.

01:03:09 SPEAKER_464: Both my outer encouragement and by inner encouragement.

01:03:13 SPEAKER_464: And by inner encouragement and focus, you help to develop what could be seen as guardrails.

01:03:25 SPEAKER_464: Each seeker who performs this task, who allows themselves to honour the compassion and love for fourth density that may be present within this chaos,

01:03:41 SPEAKER_464: helps to shore up these guardrails and to allow your planet to express a very difficult and turbulent transition without, as you may say, going off the rail.

01:03:51 SPEAKER_464: Rails.

01:03:51 SPEAKER_464: To the question of whether these rails are innate within the process of this transition to the fourth density, we would say that this is not necessarily a built-in aspect.

01:03:57 SPEAKER_464: There may be situations and potentials upon your planet and upon other planets in which the chaos and the difficulty imposed upon the planetary population by the very powerful fourth density energies attempting to manifest can

01:04:05 SPEAKER_464: meet such resistance and create such confusion that indeed there may be some great harm done to the planetary body itself.

01:04:06 SPEAKER_464: There may be some great catalyst that unfolds that induces much suffering upon your planet.

01:04:08 SPEAKER_464: There could be a lessening of the planetary population due to these things.

01:04:12 SPEAKER_464: We speak these words, understanding that they may cause alarm, but this is not the intent.

01:04:18 SPEAKER_464: For we emphasize the power contained within the individual and within the collective to recognize the truth of fortissimo and to allow that truth to be manifest within the chaos and protect against this harm.

01:04:29 SPEAKER_464: However, the seeming chaos is indeed a built-in function.

01:04:43 SPEAKER_464: You may say it is a natural result of a planetary population arrested by the distortions so powerfully woven within your societal complex that discourage the inner seeking of each individual, and that provide the distraction,

01:04:55 SPEAKER_464: allowing individuals to avoid witnessing and experiencing the suffering and the difficulty upon your planet.

01:05:11 SPEAKER_464: And these fourth density energies push ever harder against that avoidance and against the discouragement of seeking the self.

01:05:19 SPEAKER_464: As individuals experience the power of this energy, it becomes manifest in greater and greater means of avoidance,

01:05:28 SPEAKER_464: and this avoidance then can become so powerful that it turns outward and becomes violent and projects itself upon others, whether that be the neighbour or the other of your countries, of your communities.

01:05:32 SPEAKER_464: The regression could be to the orange ray of individual personality and protection, desiring only to care for the self, to love only those things that may benefit the self,

01:05:39 SPEAKER_464: or it may be to the yellow ray of caring greatly for the social bonds formed within your communities, large and small.

01:05:56 SPEAKER_464: We encourage you to pay attention to the energies of these regressions and to discover them within yourself as you witness them outside of yourself,

01:05:59 SPEAKER_464: and we encourage you to pay attention to the feelings that arise when witnessing them,

01:06:14 SPEAKER_464: whether it is fear or anger or even a general anxiety of the results that might come from the increasing manifestation of these regressive attitudes.

01:06:22 SPEAKER_464: Bring all this into your heart and allow it to sit within that space that has been cultivated by the love and acceptance of the fourth density, for it is in this acceptance, this allowing,

01:06:34 SPEAKER_464: this ability to take this within the self, to recognize it as part of the self, that then provides the atmosphere of transformation that becomes the guardrails of your planet.

01:06:50 SPEAKER_464: We would also offer a glimpse that we can perceive from our own perspective, and that this is being done by groups such as this,

01:06:58 SPEAKER_464: by individuals who find these disturbing images and circumstances upon your planet to be pushing them inward.

01:07:05 SPEAKER_464: It is indeed creating a catalyst for those individuals to activate the love and to activate the acceptance necessary to allow this transformation.

01:07:19 SPEAKER_464: This is not always apparent on the outside.

01:07:29 SPEAKER_464: You may not always perceive it, particularly, given the focus of what you call news or how information arrives within your perception.

01:07:41 SPEAKER_464: Much of this quiet contemplation remains interior, but it can be perceived and utilised by the collective.

01:07:47 SPEAKER_464: If you, as individuals, continue to tap into this energy, the available capacity for the transformation of frequency becomes greater, and the protection imbued upon your planet also becomes greater.

01:07:57 SPEAKER_464: We witness the greatest probability possibility unfolding that the work done by many individuals is succeeding.

01:08:12 SPEAKER_464: There may be much chaos and turbulence to unfold, and much catalyst to be visited upon your planetary population.

01:08:29 SPEAKER_755: But due to this work, this catalyst then has the possibility of succeeding in its mission.

01:08:43 SPEAKER_755: Which is to cause you, as a planetary population, to turn together towards the heart.

01:08:49 SPEAKER_755: This will require more and more catalysts of greater and greater degrees, for it must increase in its intensity to draw the attention of the individual and to break through, you may say,

01:09:01 SPEAKER_755: to the hardened protection around the heart that has been built by the energies of the orange and yellow rays.

01:09:05 SPEAKER_755: But this catalyst can work.

01:09:19 SPEAKER_755: And if your population were not able to grasp it and utilise it, then it would not be present.

01:09:26 SPEAKER_755: The potential of your planetary population is what manifests the degrees of this catalyst.

01:09:39 SPEAKER_755: Interesting.

01:09:44 SPEAKER_755: Like scary, scary, and hopeful.

01:09:50 SPEAKER_755: Yes, it reminds me of you know, like the higher self doesn't put before you things that it doesn't think that you can manage.

01:10:00 SPEAKER_755: You know what I mean?

01:10:17 SPEAKER_755: Like everything that is provided for you by your higher self, I mean that that is in your life is something that your higher self has approved for you to experience,

01:10:26 SPEAKER_755: and so there is a way through it.

01:10:35 SPEAKER_755: Um.

01:10:43 SPEAKER_755: Okay.

01:10:43 SPEAKER_755: So.

01:10:46 SPEAKER_755: Now what is?

01:11:01 SPEAKER_755: Even though it's a lot harder than I want it to be, or it it can be, yes, yeah, could be, could be more challenging.

01:11:03 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, so it could be okay.

01:11:23 SPEAKER_755: So it could, it could be a lot more challenging, you say?

01:11:25 SPEAKER_755: Okay.

01:11:26 SPEAKER_755: Well, you know, running against I'm not sure two other mayoral candidates is more challenging than running against one.

01:11:28 SPEAKER_755: There you go.

01:11:40 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, yeah.

01:11:42 SPEAKER_755: Um.

01:11:47 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, I think that that one was potent with lots of stuff.

01:11:47 SPEAKER_755: I don't know if anyone else.

01:11:58 SPEAKER_755: There any reflections before we go into?

01:11:59 SPEAKER_755: There is a there is a follow up to this that question.

01:12:00 SPEAKER_755: Oh yeah, but that was so long.

01:12:00 SPEAKER_755: We have to break okay first.

01:12:05 SPEAKER_755: Um, did anyone have any commentary before we do that?

01:12:07 SPEAKER_755: No, because I feel like it must have had so much, so much good stuff in it.

01:12:12 SPEAKER_755: Awakening and regression are happening simultaneously.

01:12:17 SPEAKER_755: The growing spiritual evolution of your planet alongside the seeming regression of your planet.

01:12:22 SPEAKER_755: Many seekers generally perceive both: increasing compassion, spiritual curiosity, local community, ecological awareness, openness to consciousness, while simultaneously witnessing polarization, fear, violence, narcissism, fragmentation, institutional breakdown, tribal hostility.

01:12:26 SPEAKER_755: KUD does not deny either side.

01:12:31 SPEAKER_755: Instead, attention on either side, instead, the tension itself is presented as part of the transition.

01:12:40 SPEAKER_755: Fourth density energy acts like pressure.

01:12:44 SPEAKER_755: KUD describes fourth density energies as increasingly present and pressing upon humanity's psyche.

01:12:52 SPEAKER_755: These fourth density energies push ever harder against that avoidance.

01:13:04 SPEAKER_755: Within the Law of One framework, fourth density represents love, transparency, interconnectedness, compassion, collective awareness.

01:13:09 SPEAKER_755: But humanity contains many structures built upon fear, domination, separation, distraction, suppression, egoic identity.

01:13:10 SPEAKER_755: As higher energy consciousness increases, unresolved distortions become harder to suppress.

01:13:18 SPEAKER_755: This resembles psychological shadow work at a planetary scale.

01:13:21 SPEAKER_755: What was hidden begins surfacing: corruption, trauma, addiction, fear, collective wounds, spiritual emptiness.

01:13:28 SPEAKER_755: The turbulence is therefore framed as both dangerous and potentially transformative.

01:13:32 SPEAKER_755: Media amplifies fear and distortion.

01:13:39 SPEAKER_755: There is the tendency to allow the perceptions, the seemingly negative, to overwhelm the senses.

01:13:45 SPEAKER_755: This feels remarkably applicable to the internet age.

01:13:50 SPEAKER_755: Modern communication systems continuously amplify outrage, fear, catastrophe, division, emotional stimulation.

01:13:53 SPEAKER_755: KUD warns that this can pull consciousness away from the heart.

01:14:03 SPEAKER_755: Importantly, KUD does not suggest ignoring suffering.

01:14:10 SPEAKER_755: Instead, the teaching is about balance.

01:14:21 SPEAKER_755: Remain aware.

01:14:25 SPEAKER_755: Remain compassionate.

01:14:29 SPEAKER_755: But intentionally nourish perception of love and connection too.

01:14:35 SPEAKER_755: Otherwise, consciousness becomes psychologically flooded.

01:14:38 SPEAKER_755: Guardrails are built through conscious love.

01:14:40 SPEAKER_755: One of the most powerful metaphors is the idea of guardrails.

01:14:41 SPEAKER_755: KUD says seekers help build them by recognizing compassion, nurturing community, cultivating openheartedness, and consciously focusing on love amid chaos.

01:14:43 SPEAKER_755: Each seeker who performs this task helps to shore up these guardrails.

01:14:48 SPEAKER_755: Commentary: This is a radically decentralized vision of planetary healing.

01:14:49 SPEAKER_755: KUD does not describe salvation as arriving through governments, institutions, saviors, elites, or technologies.

01:14:56 SPEAKER_755: The stabilizing force emerges through ordinary consciousness.

01:15:02 SPEAKER_755: Every act of kindness, empathy, local cooperation, forgiveness, contemplation, neighbourly care, and emotional honesty becomes part of the energetic scaffolding, helping humanity survive transition.

01:15:10 SPEAKER_755: So, I mean, at least I am, you know, running for mayor.

01:15:16 SPEAKER_755: But those are the things I'm promoting.

01:15:20 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, that's that's what your your platform to run on.

01:15:25 SPEAKER_755: Exactly.

01:15:28 SPEAKER_755: Compassion is is is my third pillar.

01:15:41 SPEAKER_755: You could list them.

01:15:49 SPEAKER_755: You can list them all: transparency, participation, and compassion.

01:15:51 SPEAKER_755: Yeah.

01:15:56 SPEAKER_755: There you go.

01:15:59 SPEAKER_755: Yeah.

01:16:01 SPEAKER_755: This aligns strongly with your own emphasis on distributed resilience, village-scale community, mutual aid, local stewardship, and relational rather than purely institutional civilization.

01:16:05 SPEAKER_755: Oh, here, this is ChatGPT commenting about me.

01:16:06 SPEAKER_755: Right.

01:16:07 SPEAKER_755: Chaos is described as natural, not accidental.

01:16:09 SPEAKER_755: The same.

01:16:10 SPEAKER_755: The seeming chaos is indeed a built-in function.

01:16:21 SPEAKER_755: This is a difficult teaching because it refrains instability as catalytic rather than meaningless.

01:16:24 SPEAKER_755: According to KUD, the chaos emerges because humanity has avoided inner seeking for so long through distraction, material fixation, emotional suppression, and social conditioning.

01:16:24 SPEAKER_755: This increasingly intensity of catalyst becomes necessary to break through the inertia.

01:16:27 SPEAKER_755: This is not glorious.

01:16:29 SPEAKER_755: This does not glorify suffering.

01:16:31 SPEAKER_755: Who repeatedly speaks compassionately about the danger involved, but the turbulence is presented as purposeful pressure pushing consciousness toward the heart.

01:16:37 SPEAKER_755: Well, and for people who find the jitsy is kicking them out, usually Chrome I find is the best browser, or or Chromium,

01:16:48 SPEAKER_755: because Firefox has this weird thing where at times a weird thing where it times out.

01:16:57 SPEAKER_755: Okay, KUD connects regression to orange ray and yellow ray distortions, self-protection, tribalism, fear-based identity, domination, attaching to group conflict, desiring only to care for the self.

01:16:58 SPEAKER_755: The map remarkably well onto current social dynamics: hyperindividualism, national hostility, nationalist online tribal warfare, fear-driven politics.

01:17:01 SPEAKER_755: KUD suggests these are partial.

01:17:12 SPEAKER_755: KUD suggests these are partially defensive reactions to accelerating energetic pressure.

01:17:27 SPEAKER_755: People often regress when overwhelmed.

01:17:31 SPEAKER_755: This is why inner grounding becomes increasingly important.

01:17:44 SPEAKER_755: The real work is internal transformation.

01:17:53 SPEAKER_755: Bring all of this into your heart.

01:17:55 SPEAKER_755: KUD repeatedly redirects attention inward.

01:18:01 SPEAKER_755: The seeker's task is not merely defeating external enemies.

01:18:03 SPEAKER_755: The task is recognizing the energies within oneself, transforming fear without repression, integrating anger consciously, allowing compassion to hold the tension.

01:18:07 SPEAKER_755: This resembles deep contemplative tradition, where transformation begins internally before expressing externally.

01:18:09 SPEAKER_755: The guardrails begin inside consciousness itself.

01:18:13 SPEAKER_755: The inner quiet, inner work matters more than it appears.

01:18:16 SPEAKER_755: Much of the quiet contemplation remains interior, but it can be perceived and utilised by the collective.

01:18:20 SPEAKER_755: This is an important antidote to despair.

01:18:31 SPEAKER_755: Modern cultures often spare modern cultures often equate impact with visibility, followers, vitality, institutional power, spectacle.

01:18:38 SPEAKER_755: But instead, KUD emphasizes subtle influence, meditation, prayer, loving intention, emotional healing, compassion, and local acts of care.

01:18:42 SPEAKER_755: These are portrayed as real contributions to planetary stabilization.

01:18:53 SPEAKER_755: Catalyst intensifies because humanity still has potential.

01:18:57 SPEAKER_757: One of the most hopeful statements is near the end: If your planetary population were not able to grasp it and utilise it, then it would not be present.

01:19:05 SPEAKER_757: KUD suggests the very existence of intense catalyst implies humanity retains transformational potential.

01:19:15 SPEAKER_757: This is profoundly hopeful.

01:19:19 SPEAKER_757: The suffering is not presented as proof of inevitable collapse, but as evidence that consciousness still may awaken through the pressure.

01:19:25 SPEAKER_757: The future remains probabilistic rather than predetermined.

01:19:40 SPEAKER_757: Intentionally notice love.

01:19:49 SPEAKER_757: Who specifically encourages noticing community, shared grief, shared celebration, kindness, human worth, compassion.

01:19:50 SPEAKER_757: In ordinary life, this becomes spiritual practice.

01:20:01 SPEAKER_757: Avoid psychological flooding.

01:20:04 SPEAKER_757: Stay informed, but avoid total immersion in outrage cycles and fear amplification.

01:20:10 SPEAKER_757: The nervous system needs space to reconnect with nature, silence, human presence, beauty, and gratitude.

01:20:16 SPEAKER_757: Build local relationships.

01:20:17 SPEAKER_757: This passage strongly supports mutual aid: local community, neighbourhood bonds, shared stewardship, village-scale care.

01:20:20 SPEAKER_757: This becomes the real guardrails during instability.

01:20:24 SPEAKER_757: When social fear rises, observe it, feel it honestly, bring it into your heart.

01:20:25 SPEAKER_757: Avoid projecting it outwards.

01:20:30 SPEAKER_757: Transformation begins inside.

01:20:32 SPEAKER_757: Small acts matter: helping neighbours, feeding people, listening deeply, creating beauty, teaching calmly, tending land, reducing fear.

01:20:38 SPEAKER_757: These stabilize the collective, far more than many realize.

01:20:39 SPEAKER_757: Closing reflection: Q'uo presents humanity's turbulence as neither meaningless chaos nor guaranteed apocalypse.

01:20:40 SPEAKER_757: The transition is real.

01:20:47 SPEAKER_757: The danger is real.

01:20:50 SPEAKER_757: The possibilities are also real.

01:20:54 SPEAKER_757: The determining factor is whether enough individuals choose openness over fear, compassion over aggression, inner seeking over distraction, and love over separation.

01:20:55 SPEAKER_757: The guardrails are not external systems alone; they are living networks of awakened hearts.

01:20:56 SPEAKER_757: This catalyst then has the possibility of succeeding in its mission, which is to cause you, as a planetary population, to turn together towards the heart.

01:20:58 SPEAKER_757: All right.

01:21:14 SPEAKER_463: So I think that was nice.

01:21:20 SPEAKER_463: I don't know if anyone else has an opinion on that.

01:21:32 SPEAKER_463: Yeah, it's very nice.

01:21:33 SPEAKER_463: We have to.

01:21:38 SPEAKER_463: The very fact that we're experiencing everything in such a polarizing fashion is because we are in this era of fourth density manifestation.

01:21:45 SPEAKER_463: So everything that's happening is as a result of that transition, not as a sign that we are not making it.

01:21:47 SPEAKER_463: It's because we made it that we're having this purging, but it's also a sign of how much their density is aligning with the fourth density aspect of you.

01:22:03 SPEAKER_463: What's inside of you is very clear.

01:22:11 SPEAKER_463: What is hidden is very much out in the open, because in fourth density, your thoughts, your emotions, they're clearly on display.

01:22:19 SPEAKER_463: Everyone can perceive you empathically.

01:22:20 SPEAKER_463: Everyone.

01:22:30 SPEAKER_463: This is why STS will not have free reign because you can literally spot someone's agendas and everything inside of them, and what is in your head will be manifest very quickly.

01:22:33 SPEAKER_463: And so we're seeing now in 3D, everything is coming out right.

01:22:44 SPEAKER_463: There's this era where all of a sudden all that was hidden is right out in your face,

01:22:51 SPEAKER_463: and people who could hide their agendas and their real feelings about other selves and what was inside of them, all of a sudden it's plastered everywhere.

01:23:01 SPEAKER_463: This scandal, this reveal, all this.

01:23:11 SPEAKER_463: So it's like 3D is matching that principle of 4D,

01:23:13 SPEAKER_463: where everything is out in the open and the lines are clearly showing who is moving towards love and who's moving away or who's moving towards STS and STO, so it's a very positive sign.

01:23:18 SPEAKER_463: Painful for sure, as because we're the ones going through it, right?

01:23:29 SPEAKER_463: It's easy to say it from fourth density.

01:23:32 SPEAKER_463: Hey, you guys are doing great, but in 3D, it's tough, but it's positive.

01:23:35 SPEAKER_463: Hmm.

01:23:38 SPEAKER_463: Yeah.

01:23:48 SPEAKER_463: For sure, I agree.

01:23:48 SPEAKER_463: Um.

01:23:48 SPEAKER_463: And like, well, where I live, you know, it's kind of a we have very few or no SDS individuals, so it's more like kind of like there's different degrees of neutrality to positivity,

01:23:50 SPEAKER_463: and but so I think the catalyst really is about helping people go from that neutral space into a more positive space.

01:23:52 SPEAKER_463: Okay.

01:24:04 SPEAKER_463: Everyone will have their, you know, their portion of it to go through.

01:24:10 SPEAKER_463: Because I think, in the neutral kind of perspective, people kind of oscillate between, you know, fear and love.

01:24:15 SPEAKER_463: Whereas, would you say that neutrality is the sinkhole?

01:24:22 SPEAKER_463: Yes, the sinkhole.

01:24:28 SPEAKER_463: That's what I meant.

01:24:28 SPEAKER_463: Yes.

01:24:32 SPEAKER_463: Okay.

01:24:32 SPEAKER_463: The sinkhole.

01:24:32 SPEAKER_463: So the sinkhole of indifference, and so you know.

01:24:33 SPEAKER_463: Difference, and so you know that there's still like a lot of people there, and like sometimes you know like they're really suffering, and like you feel for them,

01:24:37 SPEAKER_463: but you know sometimes they don't want help, and and you can't help them.

01:24:50 SPEAKER_757: But other times, people are willing, you know, or they're like open, open-minded to it, and you know they're happy to hear or see something positive,

01:24:59 SPEAKER_757: and so that they have something to hope for in their life, and you know that's a beautiful thing when you get to share that moment of hope and love with a person or a family.

01:25:09 SPEAKER_757: So yeah, so I've been really enjoying, you know, going door to door, spreading this hope and love.

01:25:23 SPEAKER_757: Beautiful, yeah.

01:25:35 SPEAKER_463: And I know I sat with an old lady, and you know, we talked about you know her life and her hardships, and you know, processing things with love and forgiveness,

01:25:42 SPEAKER_463: and you know how to find the love behind the fear.

01:25:53 SPEAKER_463: And she was well, like yeah, I was telling her about my platform, and the third pillar is compassion.

01:25:55 SPEAKER_463: And I was saying, you know, so some people they respond to things with fear and control, and we want to respond it with forgiveness, love, and compassion for everyone involved.

01:26:07 SPEAKER_463: Finding the love behind the fear.

01:26:24 SPEAKER_463: And she's like, "What do you mean, finding the love behind the fear?"

01:26:28 SPEAKER_463: and so then I said, "Well, it's kind of like when you're afraid of losing someone.

01:26:32 SPEAKER_463: The love behind the fear is that you love that person, and so you can shift from a place of fear to a place of gratitude.

01:26:37 SPEAKER_463: Of I am grateful for this person.

01:26:53 SPEAKER_463: I love this person, and that completely changes the dynamic and the outlook, and you know how everything is feeling.

01:26:59 SPEAKER_755: And you know the Bible says, 'Give thanks' in all things."

01:27:09 SPEAKER_464: And and she was, she related.

01:27:14 SPEAKER_464: She was a Catholic, before so, yeah.

01:27:21 SPEAKER_755: I I think you know it helped her, and she was saying, you know, after that, I I, she said, "Well, I really appreciate my sister."

01:27:31 SPEAKER_755: You know, she's seventy three, and her sister's seventy five, and yeah.

01:27:35 SPEAKER_755: Oh, that's beautiful.

01:27:38 SPEAKER_755: Thank you for that service and sharing.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Yeah.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: So it's kind of like this whole campaign.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Like this, this whole campaigning is this opportunity to like meet people and meld with their hearts in love and kindness, and it's really nice that way.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: And it calls to something in you to pull out even more love, light, and compassion, because you know you're talking it and you're walking it, and when you do those over and over,

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: it begins to transform you in ways you didn't even think of, because it's not something you.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: It's something that you embodying more and more now.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Yeah, yeah, no, it's true, and I think, you know, the transformation isn't just like spiritual; it can also be physical.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Like, like I, I got thinner.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Apparently, my wife even mentioned it, so that's nice.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Nice.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: But yeah.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: I I feel like you know since I got, I made the decision, and actually became an official candidate.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Like I was undergoing, like I I felt really tired, and I was undergoing like kind of like a like a bodily or a spiritual transformation, like an upgrade, if you will, or something.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Because like so many quantum points had collapsed or whatever, and so I was getting into this particular timeline, which was interesting.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: And like it's earlier today in the previous session, it was talking about intuition and things like that, and so and dreams.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: And I feel that's really true, and you know, I'm I'm really guided by the Holy Spirit all the time, or like these visions and dreams, and so I know what to do next.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: You know, I know, like the plan.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: The plan is given to me, I guess, by the higher self, and like the whole life, it's all kind of works together, um, in this beautiful way, and yeah.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Oh, it's nine o'clock.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Okay, is there any remarks from anyone?

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Any questions or anything else before we round off?

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Nope.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Just remember, we're in part one of March 17th, and we got the first question.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: And there's actually a real beautiful follow-up question.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Awesome.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Well, we'll get to that beauty next time.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Yeah.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: All right.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: So, as I found you, leave you in the infinite love and infinite peace of the infinite Creator within you and all around you, my friends.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Go forth, therefore, rejoicing in that infinite power and infinite peace.

01:27:39 SPEAKER_755: Adonai, v'asim bara'kus.